Canelo would get embarrassed by Bivol again

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  • Shadoww702
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    #91
    Originally posted by Tatabanya

    I'd gladly shut up if I understood what you mean with NOPE. You mean he's not getting knocked out by Bivol? I'm not really sure, but from the physical signs it doesn't look good for Canelo if he keeps oscillating between weights.

    EDIT - Oh, I saw what you meant in your previous posts. That's alright. No sleep lost on this issue.
    Kind of worried me there fir a sec

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #92
      Originally posted by Damn Wicked

      Bivol clearly stated and emphasized that Canelo had very good power, so your statement is false. Bivol has been in with big punchers at LHW, so he knows what a hard punching LHW hits like. Does the name Joe Smith ring a bell? Canelo is definitely a hard puncher, even at LHW.
      I guess you didn’t notice Canelo didn’t KO Bivol.

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      • -Kev-
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        #93
        Originally posted by Mammoth
        What an embarrassingly emotion filled thread you losers managed to turned this in to.
        Lol agreed. I think you are being unbiased and making obvious assessment.

        Huge Canelo fan here and I agree with you. Huge GGG hater here and I also agree with you.

        GGG’s impressive resume with the likes of Rosado, Macklin, Brook, Wade, Geale, Lemiuex, Rolls, Murray, etc but looking like sh/t vs Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, Canelo, Gardner, is supposed to be impressive.

        But the same fans say Canelo’s wins over Cotto, Jacobs, Liam Smith, Amir Khan, Austin Trout, Ryan Rhodes, Caleb Plant, Billy Joe Saunders, Sergey Kovalev, Callum Smith, are supposedly sh/t and rip his entire resume every chance they get.

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          #94
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          Bivol beating Canelo was un upset only for ignorrants. Canelo was not as good as odd makers and casuals wanted to believe.

          I told you guys here many times Bivol would beat Canelo, but you laughed.
          My prediction was that it was going to be a tough fight and that I “don’t think Canelo is going to win this one”. I think most of us knew he was biting off more than he could chew.

          Which is why it was ridiculous that people were accusing Canelp of ducking Charlo, Andrade and Benavidez by fighting Bivol. I think Canelo had a much better chance at beating those 3 than beating Bivol.

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          • crillz
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            #95
            You guys need to rewatch that Bivol fight
            Canelo was backing him down & touching him up (pause)
            Bivol couldn't lift his arms over his head after the fight.
            I can see Canelo using his speed/movement to give Bivol more trouble at 168
            especially now since he would have 12rds of experience against him & a weight advantage.

            Canelo had no adjustments/answers in real time which is unsettling,
            guys like Floyd could adjust with something completely different than what was trained for,
            much like he did to Shane Mosley in rd 2 when he began switching from shoulder roll to high guard, back to shoulder roll
            he realized in real time that Shane was looking to set up the overhand off his shoulder roll defense,
            never in a million years did Shane expect Floyd to switch up his ENTIRE style in the blink of an eye.
            To add to that, he would go back to the shoulder roll after using that high guard to give Shane a false sense of security
            mentally Shane couldn't get back into the fight

            If Canelo could've done that then the Bivol fight would've been either a Win or a Draw
            but he couldn't
            however with a full training camp where they know 1st hand what to work on, what to expect etc
            it can be much different especially at 168
            so no, I don't believe he will get embarrassed & I don't think he got embarrassed the 1st time
            just outsmarted is all
            Bivol ain't some killer power puncher in there
            Canelo's issue was that mentally he hit a wall & physically looked flat
            issues that I can REALLY see him fixing next time around.

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              #96
              Bivol had an answer for everything canelo tried. I could tell from the first round that Canelo was ***ed. Bivol blocked or jumped out of range nearly everything canelo did, blocked his body shots ect. used his handspeed and range. He is younger than canelo so its not like canelo can wait him out to get old. Canelo should avoid the rematch, he would lose again.

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                #97
                Mad respect to Canelo. He is going against the odds for a win against Bivol in a rematch.

                If Canelo pulls it off he will try and unify 175

                If he somehow does that, he's definitely going down as a top 5 p4p greatest of all time.

                Up there with the likes of Robinson, Armstrong and Ali

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by crillz
                  You guys need to rewatch that Bivol fight
                  Canelo was backing him down & touching him up (pause)
                  Bivol couldn't lift his arms over his head after the fight.
                  I can see Canelo using his speed/movement to give Bivol more trouble at 168
                  especially now since he would have 12rds of experience against him & a weight advantage.

                  Canelo had no adjustments/answers in real time which is unsettling,
                  guys like Floyd could adjust with something completely different than what was trained for,
                  much like he did to Shane Mosley in rd 2 when he began switching from shoulder roll to high guard, back to shoulder roll
                  he realized in real time that Shane was looking to set up the overhand off his shoulder roll defense,
                  never in a million years did Shane expect Floyd to switch up his ENTIRE style in the blink of an eye.
                  To add to that, he would go back to the shoulder roll after using that high guard to give Shane a false sense of security
                  mentally Shane couldn't get back into the fight

                  If Canelo could've done that then the Bivol fight would've been either a Win or a Draw
                  but he couldn't
                  however with a full training camp where they know 1st hand what to work on, what to expect etc
                  it can be much different especially at 168
                  so no, I don't believe he will get embarrassed & I don't think he got embarrassed the 1st time
                  just outsmarted is all
                  Bivol ain't some killer power puncher in there
                  Canelo's issue was that mentally he hit a wall & physically looked flat
                  issues that I can REALLY see him fixing next time around.

                  Canelo was gassed late in the fight from endless ineffective aggression. he wasnt landing much, normally he would have built up body work on the guys. True he had some arm punches in and nobody else really does an attack to the arms so its usually seen as a blocked or partially blocked shot. same thing that body punchers dont get much credit for them on scorecards compared to head shots. So maybe more consideration is due for his arm punches but Bivol had canelo there to be taken out late in the fight, he was content with the decision he had in the bag and not going to take any big risks.

                  Floyd vs Cotto really impressed me, Cotto used a high guard and Floyd threw these wide right hands that would go all the way around the guard, a punch he never thrown before and also used some uppercuts which he rarely ever threw before. He was a master of adjustments.
                  Last edited by elfag; 09-18-2022, 12:26 PM.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Mammoth
                    He was getting tired because he loads up too much. Bivol might beat him wider or even stop him if they do have a rematch.
                    i agreed, and i said it in the other post... canelo loads up now because his stamina is wack!! he cant fight a full 12 rounds fight. he starts to fade towards the later half so his game plan of throwing power punches is in hope he catches his opponent and end the fight early... if he pick his shot and box here and there, he will run out of gas. he doesnt have the stamina to box and still carry the power for all 12 rounds. this is why after he got popped for them dirty tacos' he aint never looked the same!!

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz
                      ''Canelo would get embarrassed by Bivol again''



                      Who was PRIME GGG fighting ?!?!?!?
                      Bro, Canelo just went life and death with a semi retired blown up middleweight. And you’re quoting every poster like a child acting like last night was some kind of accomplishment, unaware 90% of the forum has you blocked.

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