Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez: Golovkin Knows He Lost The Rematch, But He's Never Gonna Say It

[famicommander]

Canelo clearly won the second fight, people don't seem to know that defensive efficiency is one of the judges criteria

How is eating as many jabs as GGG could throw "defensive efficiency?"

And defense is the least important of the four criteria.
1. Clean punches
2. Effective aggression
3. Ring generalship
4. Defense

In that order. GGG landed the cleaner punches in higher volumes in at least 7 of the rounds.

[Realizniguhnit]

I thought the 2nd fight had come down to the last round and GGG had clearly won that rd imo but if I'm not mistaken 2 of the 3 judges had given it to Canelo, which was mind boggling but hey boxing was and remains probably the most corrupt sport out there..

Canelo has grown on me over the years but lately some of the stuff he says you just have to take it with a grain of salt, this is a guy who said he thought he won the Bivol fight and only gave him 2 rounds lol

[Alexis67]

How is eating as many jabs as GGG could throw "defensive efficiency?"

And defense is the least important of the four criteria.
1. Clean punches
2. Effective aggression
3. Ring generalship
4. Defense

In that order. GGG landed the cleaner punches in higher volumes in at least 7 of the rounds.

No way... Canelo dominated, compubox was on crack that night. He blocked and dodged the vast majority of GGG's punches

I'm not a Canelo fan, but I'm capable of judging a high level fight

1-0-1 for Canelo

[famicommander]

No way... Canelo dominated, compubox was on crack that night. He blocked and dodged the vast majority of GGG's punches

I'm not a Canelo fan, but I'm capable of judging a high level fight

1-0-1 for Canelo

I didn't even look at the punch stats. I watched the fight with my own eyes three times and came up with 115-113 GGG all three times. Canelo always gets favorable scorecards (see: both GGG fights, the Bivol fight, one of the judges in the Mayweather fight; I had him winning the Trout fight but it was closer than the cards; Lara fight truly could've gone either way).

Derevyanchenko came closer to beating GGG than anyone. If he hadn't been knocked down I'd have given that fight to him, 115-113. But he did get knocked down, which changes the first round from 10-9 Derevyanchenko to 10-8 Golovkin. That makes it a 6-6 fight with the knockdown, 114-113 GGG.

[Cypocryphy]

End of debate again. Canelo proved he is both superior boxer and brawler.

-Better versatility by head and body shots.
-Cleaner and crispier punches.
-Better defense.
-Better aggression.
-Better ring IQ/generalship.
-Better punch accuracy.

There is only one reason why the fights were competitive. It's GGG's better stamina and high output. Canelo 12-0s him at similar pace.

Cleaner, crisper punches? No. But if true, then on the few he threw how many were cleaner, crisper?

Better defense? So now we call jogging backwards good defense? lol

Better aggression? LMAO If running away to avoid getting hit is better defense, then you got GGG there.

Better ring IQ/Generalship? Backing up on the ropes every round to get hit is ring generalship? LMAO!! Come on man. Getting yourself gassed in the middle of every round is good ring IQ? LMAO!!! Please!

Better punch accuracy? Did you just say this with cleaner, crisper punches? Now you're repeating yourself. Like I said, he only threw some here and there. Golovkin overwhelmed him with punches thrown and landed.

No. It didn't happen.

[eco1]

Majority of the people score fights based on how many punches landed. Judges score fights based on four other criterias. So, "majority" don't know to score fights.

Canelo dominated GGG in terms of clean punching and defense in the first bout. He also had better punch accuracy. Effective aggression and ring generalship could go GGG but was his aggression really "effective"? Idk. Canelo was like a matador and GGG was like an idiot bull.

In the second fight Canelo dominated all four criterias. He was aggressor, ring general, better defender and better power puncher.

End of debate.

End of your so called debate, lol.

[Alexis67]

I didn't even look at the punch stats. I watched the fight with my own eyes three times and came up with 115-113 GGG all three times. Canelo always gets favorable scorecards (see: both GGG fights, the Bivol fight, one of the judges in the Mayweather fight; I had him winning the Trout fight but it was closer than the cards; Lara fight truly could've gone either way).

Derevyanchenko came closer to beating GGG than anyone. If he hadn't been knocked down I'd have given that fight to him, 115-113. But he did get knocked down, which changes the first round from 10-9 Derevyanchenko to 10-8 Golovkin. That makes it a 6-6 fight with the knockdown, 114-113 GGG.

I watched that fight a few times too, the right guy won. Golovkin-Derev that's another story, Derev was robbed in my eyes, big time.

But hey, it is what it is. Who you got for this third fight?

[Marvin S]

Dominated while throwing and landing less punches? How about many, many more press row scorers having picked GGG as the winner? I think you might be a little biased

Not biased, only the truth

[Boxing Goat]

Not biased, only the truth

But you're going against the vast majority of other experts and boxing writers. That should kinda tell you something LOL

[Silence]

GGGeezer didn't even admit third ass whooping.