Everyone is exagerating Floyds win over JMM

[tito yuca]

Besides Judah,

who did he beat?


Thanks for trying.

No, thank YOU for changing the subject and proving me right in the process. I replied to "he never fought a prime welter". I didn't say his competition at WW was the most impressive I'd ever seen. He beat the #1 ranked WW, took the title away from his opponent, something Miguel Cotto hasn't been able to do. Judah did it against Spinks and Baldomir did it against Judah, and Floyd beat them both.

[tito yuca]

Does your ranking system hold true for Margarito as well?


Or Shane Mosley right now?

MY ranking system? You must have extremely poor short-term memory, because Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED WW champ. I'm not making **** up.

[mikelovesfood]

It wasn't a complete domination, JMM made it competitive for the most part. I've seen Marquez come out in way worse shape than in the Mayweather fight. Take the KD away and the fight doesn't even seem half all that bad, only very boring.

Marquez is way too thick in the mid section now though, it hinders his foot speed and he doesn't really have that bounce anymore.

Anyways, sorta pisses me off how biased HBO was and just about everyone else. Just because Mayweather is apparently making it look easy, doesn't mean it is. Mayweather in no way shape or form was dominating Marquez. Winning? yes, I can live with that.

The score cards were ridiculous. I gave Marquez at least 3 rounds, you could argue some others to.

Are you kidding me? "Mayweather in no way shape or form was dominating Marquez. Winning?" Didn't you see the compubox results?

People don't get excited when a HUGE favorite wins the fight by a landslide. Because there was never any doubt to prove otherwise. On the flipside, Pac totally dominating DLH was different because many critics and even most on here viewed that fight as a DLH favorite instead of Pac.

[Vasyl’s dad]

No, thank YOU for changing the subject and proving me right in the process. I replied to "he never fought a prime welter". I didn't say his competition at WW was the most impressive I'd ever seen. He beat the #1 ranked WW, took the title away from his opponent, something Miguel Cotto hasn't been able to do. Judah did it against Spinks and Baldomir did it against Judah, and Floyd beat them both.

Who did Baldomir beat besides Judah?


and no, the only prime welter Floyd fought was Judah,

right after he lost to Carlos.


But again, who else did Baldomir beat?

[Vasyl’s dad]

MY ranking system? You must have extremely poor short-term memory, because Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED WW champ. I'm not making **** up.

You said he was number 1.

So again,

why not fight the other guys who were number one?


I'm guessing because they were actually a threat.

[daggum]

A guy who hadn't lost in more than 8 years and was considered the Cinderella Man in boxing with two victories over two famous fighters while being the underdog.

And when did he prove he couldn't compete at WW? He hadn't lost in 8 years and had been top 10 A LONG TIME. All of a sudden, Floyd beats him, and he was never **** to begin with and everyone forgot about him afterwards.

well i was talking about judah. (mayweathers other great win) judah lost to spinks, mayweather, baldomir, cotto, and clottey. i would say thats proof he's not very effective at the weight. 5 losses to 1 good win over spinks. oh wait i forgot he beat cosme rivera and some indian guy my bad!

as for baldomir. firstly lol. second of all baldomir didn't fight anyone for 8 years cept clottey where he got a gift dq after losing the first 10 rounds and mickey rodriguez(the same guy berto beat up for lols and some crappy belt)
then he beat judah and gatti who might be famous but are hardly good welterweights if you look at how they have faired at that weight. baldomir lost 2 out of his next 3 and his win was a MD over a journeyman that most think he lost. mayweather probably beat him up so bad thats why........

[King Jaffe Joffer]

Who did Baldomir beat besides Judah?


and no, the only prime welter Floyd fought was Judah,

right after he lost to Carlos.


But again, who else did Baldomir beat?

Clottey... You silly *****

[tito yuca]

Who did Baldomir beat besides Judah?


and no, the only prime welter Floyd fought was Judah,

right after he lost to Carlos.


But again, who else did Baldomir beat?

His claim to faim was Judah and Gatti. He also beat Clottey, but that doesn't matter, he was ranked #1. It's irrelevant if he beat anyone else of importance, because he beat Judah, and by doing that he became the undisputed champ.

[tito yuca]

I also love how you change the subject every time I make a good point and prove you wrong.

Floyd was accused of not fighting a prime WW, I named Baldomir

Baldomir was accused of being bad comp, I said he was ranked #1 and was the undisputed champ.

Now I'm being asked who did he beat besides the guy that made him have that #1 ranking.

Seriously, you guys are pathetic. Where do yo plan to take this debate?

[- JCHING -]

them_apples is a Pacquiao nuthugger trying to discredit PBF's impressive domination of a guy who beat Pac twice.

I am a huge JMM fan, but he won 1 round at the most and the size, sharpness and overall skills of Mayweather were far too much for him. PBF carried Marquez in that fight.