Comments Thread For: Shields On Marshall's Knockouts: She's Knocking Out Smaller Girls With Losing Records

[Boxingfanatic75]

All you had to do was watch this before Shields/Hammer.

My only concern with Marshall is her work rate. If she is doing all that waxing and weaving, she will be down 7-1 in a blink of an eye, just based on Shields slipping in and letting off combos and getting out. Good power for a woman but she is not a spark puncher so she would need accumulation and Shields just doesn't sit around on the ropes to let you go off.

Based on that video I see nothing but punches to the high SIDE of the head and this was clearly a KO. How I can watch a video and determine that WITHOUT replay and an incompetent ref cannot say either the ref was paid to protect Hammer or incompetent…ick one…thanks for the video

[Boxingfanatic75]

The world is very racist and discriminating. I've seen both opponents box. Anyone that uses their eyes, and not their prejudices, know that Marshall is in for a long night.

I’ve seen NOONE interject “race” into their comments. I think finding a reason to insert race into a conversation where it doesn’t exist say more of the accuser than those standing dumbfounded.

[Mikhnienko]

Shields non-stop punching may give Marshall few opportunities but if she gets them she'll know what to do with them.

Marshall can't just shell up and needs to be capable and willing to exchange with her even if she's only throwing two punches to Shields four similar to Chavez vs Taylor. Wasn't sure if she was capable of that until I watched her fight against the Lolita girl where she definitely showed the composure and ability to do so. Furthermore Shield footwork and foot speed is average she closes distance with counters and timing followed by her flurries not her feet. She'll have a harder time getting into range against Marshall compared to Hammer on her out boxing skills alone but more importantly Savannah's footwork and angles will present a lot more difficulty for Shields ability to get her feet set to throw those combos. I would also be surprised if Shields willingness to throw them remains the same throughout the fight as Marshall's power will likely cause her to keep her hands at home more and more as the fight progresses. I'm rooting for Marshall and do think she possesses the skills and attributes to win this.

[Mikhnienko]

Shields will probably beat Marshall but some want to see her lose because of her personality. It is like when Ali was calling Joe Frazier "Uncle Tom" before their first fight but then Frazier beat him. But Savannah can't hit like Frazier.

You're right. Unlike Joe Savannah can punch with both hands.

[Robbie Barrett]

Problem is women boxing has no depth. The MW division has 19 fighters in the entire world. Any woman could have a fight and be a top 20 MW.


Marshall going to wear Shields down and stop here late. Marshall is non stop and Shields got nothing to worry her.

[The D3vil]

You're talking about her competition being "way harder" yet in their common opponents Savannah has brutally dispatched them compared to points for Shields.

And most if not all who've won a gold medal have better competition at a faster rate then their contemporaries because it's assumed rightly or wrongly they're prepared for said opposition and of course they've gained somewhat of a following and have more financial value from the off again rightly or wrongly.

A prospect who doesn't have medals and such has to be managed much more carefully á la Wilder even though he had medalled albeit in an abysmal cycle.

Savannah's older, so that's not really the flex you think it is.

You're right, Claressa was the more successful amateur and is the more successful pro

And her competition has been harder just look at the records of their opponents.

And "common opponents" don't always mean anything.

Mike Tyson & Evander Holyfield both fought Larry Holmes. Tyson destroyed a 38 year old Holmes, while Holyfield struggled with a 42 year old Holmes & won a decision.

Yet, Holyfield destroyed Tyson.

The only reason people are picking Marshall at all is that they don't like Shields.

It's simple as that.

[Boro]

Savannah's older, so that's not really the flex you think it is.

You're right, Claressa was the more successful amateur and is the more successful pro

And her competition has been harder just look at the records of their opponents.

And "common opponents" don't always mean anything.

Mike Tyson & Evander Holyfield both fought Larry Holmes. Tyson destroyed a 38 year old Holmes, while Holyfield struggled with a 42 year old Holmes & won a decision.

Yet, Holyfield destroyed Tyson.

The only reason people are picking Marshall at all is that they don't like Shields.

It's simple as that.

The competition is going to be better for Claressa as I pointed out Medallists get pushed faster and she's fought in more divisions as well, now harder competition that's a matter of opinion.

let's keep it 100 women's boxing is about as deep as a puddle.

You're delusional if you think people are ONLY picking Marshall because they dislike Shields.

[The D3vil]

The competition is going to be better for Claressa as I pointed out Medallists get pushed faster and she's fought in more divisions as well, now harder competition that's a matter of opinion.

let's keep it 100 women's boxing is about as deep as a puddle.

You're delusional if you think people are ONLY picking Marshall because they dislike Shields.

Then what is it based on?

She's not more skilled, doesn't have a better pedigree, & doesn't have a better resume.

Who cares whether it's because Shields is an Olympic gold medalist, her resume is better, simple as that.

Like I said, even the footage from their fight made Shields look better even though Marshall won

And yeah, women's boxing pool is shallow, but even within that Shields' resume is wayyyy better

Marshall's opponents are like 47-115 collectively or something.

It's absurdly bad even for women's boxing

[Boro]

Then what is it based on?

She's not more skilled, doesn't have a better pedigree, & doesn't have a better resume.

Who cares whether it's because Shields is an Olympic gold medalist, her resume is better, simple as that.

Like I said, even the footage from their fight made Shields look better even though Marshall won

And yeah, women's boxing pool is shallow, but even within that Shields' resume is wayyyy better

Marshall's opponents are like 47-115 collectively or something.

It's absurdly bad even for women's boxing

I don't see what you're failing to grasp here Medallists get pushed faster with stiffer competition and she's been in more divisions (the lower the more competitive) Peter Fury was right in the press conference they've both fought nobody, the talent just isn't there.

The "good" female fighters are generally at 140 and below.

I think you should re-watch the amateur fight because all Shield's was doing practically was charging forward (aggression isn't taken into consideration in the amateurs) and landing on gloves and arms and the occasional body shot during clinches Savannah was landing cleaner punches to the head throughout

It's 97:116 FYI but let's not act like two opponents aren't making up the majority of them losses on their own


A prime example of this is Kell brook compared to Amir khan - Khan altogether has fought opponents with 178 losses combined, Kell brook on the other hand in his first 5 fights his opponents had 453 losses and Kell is a much better boxer then Khan even though on paper khan is more successful...

[The D3vil]

I don't see what you're failing to grasp here Medallists get pushed faster with stiffer competition and she's been in more divisions (the lower the more competitive) Peter Fury was right in the press conference they've both fought nobody, the talent just isn't there.

The "good" female fighters are generally at 140 and below.

I think you should re-watch the amateur fight because all Shield's was doing practically was charging forward (aggression isn't taken into consideration in the amateurs) and landing on gloves and arms and the occasional body shot during clinches Savannah was landing cleaner punches to the head throughout

It's 97:116 FYI but let's not act like two opponents aren't making up the majority of them losses on their own


A prime example of this is Kell brook compared to Amir khan - Khan altogether has fought opponents with 178 losses combined, Kell brook on the other hand in his first 5 fights his opponents had 453 losses and Kell is a much better boxer then Khan even though on paper khan is more successful...

Dude, Shields fought Franchon Crews in her very first professional fight.

Crews is one of the hardest punchers in womens boxing and is the current undisputed champion at 168.

She fought an undefeated Christina Hammer, who was champion for almost 10 years.

That's who you all said would beat her, remember?

Peter Fury knows fxckall about women's boxing that's why he said "neither of them have fought anybody"

Her opponents W-L is 168-16

Marshall's is 97-116

Now, tell me if this was a men's fight, who you think the favorite would be?

The person with 2 gold medals, wayyy tougher opponents, and more accomplishments?

Or the person who's solely favored based on a dubious amateur victory from a decade ago, when the loser was 17?