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  • #11
    Originally posted by sicko View Post
    you have to be careful with Sampson Lewkowicz Fighters, if they offer you one of this fighters to step in on short notice...TURN IT DOWN!

    Sampson eye for talent is INCREDIBLE, one of the best in all of boxing, he is BRILLIANT at finding Latin fighters and bringing them over and they're always live underdogs looking to make names for themselves
    Sampson does have a great eye for talent!
    sicko sicko likes this.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

      He's still the weakest hoe in the division. Gervonta is the Champ, the man all lightweights want and mention.
      Looks like even the contenders don't mention people like Ryan and Haney. Cruz beats both Haney and Ryan.
      Too bad Cruzs team didn't share the same sentiments and accept the offer to fight Ryan.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sctrojan View Post

        Wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Rayo. He got served some well deserved humble pie no doubt but it's early enough in his career where he can learn and come back a more well rounded fighter from. Having an opponent switched out to a fast,hard hitting southpaw last minute isn't something someone as young and inexperienced as himself is going to have a walk in the park with.

        To myself, it looked like Jose got caught in the moment and as soon as he got rocked in the 1st rd ,all of his training,discipline and boxing IQ went out the window. After he got hurt its like he was like "ah fuch,I gotta answer back" and just started over committing on everything to try and get the crowds approval rather than taking his time to recover and work out a strategy for Santos aggressiveness. It happens. Happened to Victor against Maidana and Broner vs Chino. For all we know,Santos may very well do the same to Cruz,Martin or Rivera. All isn't lost after one loss.....
        Despite you overhyping Rayo, I don't hold it against you. I told you every time, I was not sold on him at all. We are all wrong sometimes. You are handling it well, tho, bro. So kudos. You have passion for boxing and Hispanic American Golden Boy fighters. Fair enough. Respect others too.

        I don't see anyone beating Davis from 130 to 140 for at least 4 years, and if it ever happens, I wouldn't cry at all.
        Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 09-05-2022, 10:04 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

          Despite you overhyping Rayo, I don't hold it against you. I told you every time, I was not sold on him at all. We are all wrong sometimes. You are handling it well, tho, bro. So kudos. You have passion for boxing and Hispanic American Golden Boy fighters. Fair enough. Respect others too.

          I don't see anyone beating Davis from 130 to 140 for at least 4 years, and if it ever happens, I wouldn't cry at all.
          He never fights anyone with a pulse, so I guess instead of 4 years, you could say in the next 134.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by eco1 View Post

            He never fights anyone with a pulse, so I guess instead of 4 years, you could say in the next 134.
            Why are people calling him out and not Haney? Even the contenders don't mention the belts.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

              Despite you overhyping Rayo, I don't hold it against you. I told you every time, I was not sold on him at all. We are all wrong sometimes. You are handling it well, tho, bro. So kudos. You have passion for boxing and Hispanic American Golden Boy fighters. Fair enough. Respect others too.

              I don't see anyone beating Davis from 130 to 140 for at least 4 years, and if it ever happens, I wouldn't cry at all.
              Like the saying goes,every broken clock is right twice a day but right on homeboy. Like ourselves most here have a passion for boxing as a whole and not just fellow boxers they affiliate themselves with. I appreciate/respect any fighter who is willing to compete against the best period. That's why guys like Loma,Mell,Castano,Canelo(pains me to admit)Joshua,Usyk,Bam,Nonito,Pac etc have always garnered my appreciation. This whole dismissive attitude of boxer/promoter A towards boxer/promoter B in today's climate is frustrating as hell. Fury and Wilder towards Joshua,Canelo towards David,Mayweather/Tank towards Ryan or Loma,Crawford towards Spence and so on and so on....but It's all good homeboy,have always and will continue to be respectful for all here regardless of stance,if they do the same..cheers! Like they say,opinions are like ....

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              • #17







                Slept on the range southpaw.
                BoxingIsGreat BoxingIsGreat likes this.

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                • #18
                  El Rayo really got dismantled when he went in for the knockout, after dropping De Los Santos, I mean that was impressive.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Sctrojan View Post

                    Wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Rayo. He got served some well deserved humble pie no doubt but it's early enough in his career where he can learn and come back a more well rounded fighter from. Having an opponent switched out to a fast,hard hitting southpaw last minute isn't something someone as young and inexperienced as himself is going to have a walk in the park with.

                    To myself, it looked like Jose got caught in the moment and as soon as he got rocked in the 1st rd ,all of his training,discipline and boxing IQ went out the window. After he got hurt its like he was like "ah fuch,I gotta answer back" and just started over committing on everything to try and get the crowds approval rather than taking his time to recover and work out a strategy for Santos aggressiveness. It happens. Happened to Victor against Maidana and Broner vs Chino. For all we know,Santos may very well do the same to Cruz,Martin or Rivera. All isn't lost after one loss.....
                    Yeah, I don't like the mentality of dismissing fighters based of losing one loss but that for me it is not the issue here.

                    It is not the problem that he lost to a very hard hitter in Santos, it is the way he lost. He refused to make adjustments like in every fight he has done so far, and his most notable deficiencies have been exploited, it is likely that any opponent at this point facing Rayo will try to pull off strategies based on this fight.

                    Once he noticed the difference in power and speed, he shouldn't had continued fighting at the pocket without a guard, unless he makes drastic changes, instead of handling every fighter the same method which is attacking the body to soften up his opponents and rush in when he smells blood.

                    David Benavidez can pull it off because fighters at 168 are nowhere near as fast and he has way more range in comparison. He doesn't have this superb defense like his fans say, where he is calculating what punches he can withstand to find an opening.

                    He is just difficult to land on well when he has a high guard in an upright stance.
                    Last edited by Malvado; 09-06-2022, 07:55 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

                      Do you think he can beat Gervonta? Would that be an OK fight to you next?
                      It would be as a difficult fight as any of the Dark Horses for me, I respect him way more than compared to facing well known fighters that are no threat.

                      Plus, Santos is quite young, you never know what he will be able to pull off in the upcoming years now that he be able to get big fights due to last night.
                      Last edited by Malvado; 09-06-2022, 08:04 AM.

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