Why is Liston held in such a high regard when the best guy he beat was Patterson?

[Pugilist89]

I have never understood why people now retrospectively think he was so great. There is nothing in his record to support it. For every other WC you need a good rival to place them high up. Listons best win was Patterson, one of the weakest champions. Who was also a small HW.

[Lupara]

Mods move to Boxing History

[just the facts]

I have never understood why people now retrospectively think he was so great. There is nothing in his record to support it. For every other WC you need a good rival to place them high up. Listons best win was Patterson, one of the weakest champions. Who was also a small HW.

Take it to the boxing history section. Most here have no idea who Liston or Patterson are.

[LeOoze]

take it to the boxing history section. Most here have no idea who liston or patterson are.

lmao
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[_Rexy_]

Machen, Foley, Cleveland Williams x2 just off the top of my head. And Williams didn’t have a bullet in his stomach at the time.

Seriously OP?

[Pugilist89]

Machen, Foley, Cleveland Williams x2 just off the top of my head. And Williams didn’t have a bullet in his stomach at the time.

Seriously OP?

None of who'm are hall of famers.

[_Rexy_]

None of who'm are hall of famers.

So he’s fought two Hall of Famers and went 1-1

he’s also 6-0 (6) against opponents who also faced Ali.

what a bum.

[4truth]

Not a bum but overrated in my opinion.

Of course, greater boxing minds than mine disagree, so there's that.

[Dakuwaqa]

Because he had really long arms which is really cool

[Pugilist89]

Not a bum but overrated in my opinion.

Of course, greater boxing minds than mine disagree, so there's that.

He literally can't time a shot on someone who moves around like Machen or Ali..he had nothing on them.

His jab is also grossly overrated. It was poor defensively and Ali punished him for it in the rematch.

And he was relatively slow.

Strong suits in his prime: tough, powerful.