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  • #41
    Originally posted by Haka View Post

    Styles makes fights, what about dominating Maidana ? That was a very close fight. Wasn't Maidana a clubfighter that lost to Amir Khan ?
    The Amir Khan fight was pre-Robert Garcia.

    Robert did a great job training Maidana and making him more dangerous.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Haka View Post

      When should he have fought Mosley ? It is not my problem, Floyd should've ATLEAST fought Lara/GGG/Williams/Marg to get even with Usyk instead of fighting Mosley, the Mosley fight was a fight for the records but he had no legs at 37 years old. Not athletic enough (anymore) to compete with Mayweather who has always been a better boxer. Also rememeber the IV's for the weigh in's the 'small' myth is just a myth. May was a regular sized WW.

      Williams had to move up because he could get no fights at 147. Williams was the feared man at the time during his 147 campaign due to his size. And Floyd did not fight him although the fight was there to be made, Floyd couldve proved a point like Usyk did against Joshua. Regarding to Margarito, May fought Baldomir instead of the boogeyman Margarito. You have to take this into account when dissecting legacy. Usyk only ever took on the best and won. This is not what May has done! Don't rewrite history!
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      I don’t get how you keep ignoring historical facts. Once again, let’s correct you:

      You stated that Mosley was shot. Clearly it’s a problem you have that Floyd fought a “shot” Mosley. How is that Floyd’s problem? Three years prior to that, Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd. Should I send you sources to prove this or what?

      Williams moved up after getting beat by Quintana. But to your point, Williams’ size was going to be a problem so I can see how that fight didn’t happen.

      May moved up to 147 in 2006. He wasn’t the PPV star he later became. For him to get the kind of money he wanted, he needed leverage (fighting for belts) so Zab and Baldomir were the starting options for a guy that was moving up in weight. Floyd’s goal at the time was Oscar.

      Margarito and Cotto were promoted by Bob Arum and Arum was on record that he wasn’t going to allow those fights so how is that Floyd’s fault?

      Usyk hadn’t accomplished anything at HW. Beating AJ does not even set him on anything except give him leverage to ask for more money. You have a better chance of convincing people that Fury has a better legacy than Floyd.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Haka View Post

        When should he have fought Mosley ? It is not my problem, Floyd should've ATLEAST fought Lara/GGG/Williams/Marg to get even with Usyk instead of fighting Mosley, the Mosley fight was a fight for the records but he had no legs at 37 years old. Not athletic enough (anymore) to compete with Mayweather who has always been a better boxer. Also rememeber the IV's for the weigh in's the 'small' myth is just a myth. May was a regular sized WW.

        Williams had to move up because he could get no fights at 147. Williams was the feared man at the time during his 147 campaign due to his size. And Floyd did not fight him although the fight was there to be made, Floyd couldve proved a point like Usyk did against Joshua. Regarding to Margarito, May fought Baldomir instead of the boogeyman Margarito. You have to take this into account when dissecting legacy. Usyk only ever took on the best and won. This is not what May has done! Don't rewrite history!
        Floyd beat the guys that beat them,,,,, the rest of your post is utter BS.



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        • #44
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

          Floyd beat the guys that beat them,,,,, the rest of your post is utter BS.
          The Marg fight we don't know. GGG at 154 was there, Williams was there. I rate the Gassiev win of Usyk higher or just as high as the Hatton win. And Hatton is one of the best names on Floyds resume.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Haka View Post
            The Marg fight we don't know. GGG at 154 was there, Williams was there. I rate the Gassiev win of Usyk higher or just as high as the Hatton win. And Hatton is one of the best names on Floyds resume.




            Hatton is not a top 5 name on Mayweathers resume, and Gassiev is not a top name period

            if you think Plodkin could have beaten Floyd at 154 then this aint your sport fella

            no way would Plodkin be the same fighter at 154, and he is way too slow for Mayweather

            also.... we remember how you crybabies wet your pants over the 2 pounds that Canelo had to lose







            ...

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              Marquez knocked Pacquiao out at welterweight.

              Did anyone dominate JMM like Floyd did? The answer is no.
              Did u even read anything of what i said?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                History will remember PAC losing to Floyd and 7 other fighters.
                History will also remember PAC getting destroyed by Marquez with one single punch.
                History will also remember the catchweight fights PAC had in fact the 154 Ibs title was fought at 150Ibs and against a guy who had just been KO’d a year earlier by Mosley.
                History will remember froid as the guy Jake Paul fought in an embarassing exhibition

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
                  I don’t consider Mayweather to be the best ever or even the best in any weight class he’s fought in, but your undefeated record argument is skewed. Who you beat needs to be taken into consideration more than the undefeated record or streak. For all of Chavez wins, he was literally still facing novice level boxers on a consistent basis when he was a world champion with 50, 60, and 70 plus wins. He only beat 2 fighters who became hall of famers. Quite different than mayweathers quality of opposition in 50 fights.
                  If u gonna say that, go mention the guys Floyd fought and WHEN coz u can name ZERO guy he fought at their best, them going to HoF is irrelevant when they didnt fought at their best

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MCFM View Post

                    Did u even read anything of what i said?
                    Can you admit that NO ONE ever beat Marquez as badly as Floyd did?

                    Or are you incapable of being objective?

                    Which is it?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Haka View Post


                      You forget to put the asterixs.

                      Shot Cotto/Mosley/Pac/Hoya.

                      Where is P Williams/Lara/GGG/Margarito ?

                      The path to greatness was there... That's why May can never be higher than Usyk on the ATG list.
                      Also ducked tzsyu like a plague
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