Why is Wilder no longer with Showtime?

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    #11
    Dazn offered Wilder $20m for Brezeale. Showtime had to pay up and it was around $10m which was crazy money. They lost a lot on that and then decided it wasn't worth doing the Wilder-Ortiz fight. The Fury 3 fight was espn wasn't it? im assuming because Fury was A side.

    Espinoza is a complete idiot. The guy had the chance to make AJ-Wilder back for the September 2018 date, but allowed Canelo GGG to get scheduled only 2 weeks before their proposed fight, asked eddie to move the fight to october (and thus, Wembley stadium was out of the question, october is a very wet month). The fight fell apart.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sctrojan
      Any insight as to whether FOX will continue/invest into PBC beyond the end of the year?
      The deal has worked very well for FOX and I expect them to continue. They found the winning formula, using football to hype four PPVs a year, with undercard airing on FOX and FS1. The rest of the year, they air old fights on FS1 and FS2 to fill time. It's not a major commitment and it brings in guaranteed revenue.

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        #13
        Originally posted by genrick
        You could be right on that aspect, but it's obvious when Wilder was talking about
        loyalty
        Wilder is loyal to Finkel and Haymon, and therefore loyal to PBC.

        Finkel is the most successful manager in the history of heavyweight boxing and Haymon is the most successful manager in the history of boxing period.

        When Canelo and GGG both got screwed by DAZN and DAZN refused to pay them what was owed, you don't think Wilder was thankful that Finkel & Haymon protected him and didn't commit him to a network that screws their fighters?

        When Hearn offered Wilder $12.5 million to travel to the UK and fight Joshua in enemy territory, where Joshua had a rematch clause if he lost, but Wilder didn't have a rematch clause if he lost, you don't think Wilder was thankful that Finkel & Haymon got him $14 million to fight Fury at home instead where he'd have a rematch clause if he lost?

        Wilder has been managed perfectly and so he will always stay loyal to PBC.

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          #14
          Originally posted by genrick

          You could be right on that aspect, but it's obvious when Wilder was talking about
          loyalty, and then Floyd being on the right team, he's thinking of Showtime, not Fox
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          That's true. Espinoza is a huge fan of the HW division. He used to be a huge fan of Joshua. The Showtime boss wanted to keep Wilder but the price has gotten too steep because DAZN has screwed everything up. That's why Stephen's hate for Hearn is legendary. It goes way back years even before the AJ/Wilder controversy. Showtime used to air Matchroom fights, remember, particularly HW fights? I don't know exactly what went wrong with his relationship with Hearn, which used to be cordial.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JQside

            That's true. Espinoza is a huge fan of the HW division. He used to be a huge fan of Joshua. The Showtime boss wanted to keep Wilder but the price has gotten too steep because DAZN has screwed everything up. That's why Stephen's hate for Hearn is legendary. It goes way back years even before the AJ/Wilder controversy. Showtime used to air Matchroom fights, remember, particularly HW fights? I don't know exactly what went wrong with his relationship with Hearn, which used to be cordial.
            I have totally forgotten about that.

            And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I watched the AJ vs Klitschko fight
            on Showtime and on a lazy afternoon. Sweeeet Caroline, pam pam pam...

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