MAYWEATHER was 152 pounds in the ring vs. MARQUEZ

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  • Al Haymon
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    #41
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    I agree, its a clear red flag. There is no reason not to jump on the scale unless you know it will reveal something embarrassing.

    I personally, I would bet money that Floyd walked into the ring weighing AT LEAST 156lb if not more.
    So, you feel that FMJ dried out pretty significantly to make the weight?

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    • Fulcrum29
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      #42
      Here's what I posted in another thread that's on this topic:

      What some people are failing to see is that Floyd did not fight this fight as the bigger guy, he fought it as the fastest guy, Floyd might as well have weighed less than Marquez in this fight. Like the guy in the video says, if you're a bigger fighter you're supposed to be getting hit more because you're slower.
      As an example of this just take a look at DLH vs. Hopkins when Oscar challenged the much bigger Bernard and according to many people dominated the first 5 or 6 rounds because he was much faster and was flurrying alot and hitting Bernard with much faster shots until the SIZE of Bernard finally played an advantage in that his power was too overwhelming for Oscar because he didn't have the quantity but he had the QUALITY of power when he landed that big bomb on his kidney and knocked Oscar out.

      In this fight however it was the complete opposite, Floyd was supposedly "bigger" yet that had nothing to do with the fact that he was ten times faster than Marquez too and his defense was ten times better which allowed Marquez to connect only at like a 19% rate. How was Floyd's "size" responsible for a 80% connect rate or whatever ridiculous number it was that he put out on Marquez? So it's very simple, point is is that Floyd simply outskilled Marquez and the size would have had no difference. The only way this fight would have been based on size is if Floyd knocked Marquez out or punished/hurt him often then people could honestly say "Well wow, Floyd's size played a major role" but like I said Floyd didn't fight like the bigger man, he fought like the faster, slicker and defensively better man. Case closed.

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      • tito yuca
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        #43
        Originally posted by Al Haymon
        Keep in mind that many of the guys on this board are unathletic. They don't realize what adding ten pounds of muscle on a 5'8" guy with PBF's frame would look like.

        The idea that Mayweather added ten pounds of lean muscle since the Hatton fight is beyond ludicrous.

        He is both lean and dark-skinned*. Both factors exacerbate the visual impression that he is bigger than Marquez.


        *Yes. there's a reason why bodybuilders apply dark tans.
        Couldn't have said it myself, those have been my exact thoughts.

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        • h2k
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          #44
          IMHO mayweather weights around 160-165lbs in the marquez fight

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          • Spray_resistant
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            #45
            The truth is no one knows what he weighed. I am having a hard time believing that he was only 4lbs heavier than JMM was regardless of what anyone thinks but it is all speculation and I choose to believe he weighed 157-158 based on how much bigger he looked than JMM was at 148.....still we will never know for sure because Floyd refused to be weighed so think whatever you want.

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            • shogunn
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              #46
              Originally posted by Fulcrum29
              Here's what I posted in another thread that's on this topic:

              What some people are failing to see is that Floyd did not fight this fight as the bigger guy, he fought it as the fastest guy, Floyd might as well have weighed less than Marquez in this fight. Like the guy in the video says, if you're a bigger fighter you're supposed to be getting hit more because you're slower.
              As an example of this just take a look at DLH vs. Hopkins when Oscar challenged the much bigger Bernard and according to many people dominated the first 5 or 6 rounds because he was much faster and was flurrying alot and hitting Bernard with much faster shots until the SIZE of Bernard finally played an advantage in that his power was too overwhelming for Oscar because he didn't have the quantity but he had the QUALITY of power when he landed that big bomb on his kidney and knocked Oscar out.

              In this fight however it was the complete opposite, Floyd was supposedly "bigger" yet that had nothing to do with the fact that he was ten times faster than Marquez too and his defense was ten times better which allowed Marquez to connect only at like a 19% rate. How was Floyd's "size" responsible for a 80% connect rate or whatever ridiculous number it was that he put out on Marquez? So it's very simple, point is is that Floyd simply outskilled Marquez and the size would have had no difference. The only way this fight would have been based on size is if Floyd knocked Marquez out or punished/hurt him often then people could honestly say "Well wow, Floyd's size played a major role" but like I said Floyd didn't fight like the bigger man, he fought like the faster, slicker and defensively better man. Case closed.
              floyd was faster because marquez was overweight, plain and simple. Not to mention stronger since he outweighed him by at least 10lbs. A lightweight trying to blow up to match a welterweight, a robbery. It was painfully obvious JMM had no where near the speed he had fighting at 135.

              JMM has never fought above 135, he isnt mosley/cotto/manny no matter how hard you guys try to convince us.
              Last edited by shogunn; 09-21-2009, 03:24 AM.

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              • Sir Tom Jones
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                #47
                Originally posted by Al Haymon
                1) Floyd had an official pre-fight weigh-in which was supervised by the NSAC last week. He was 152 pounds for that weigh-in.

                2) For the 30-day weigh-in for The World Awaits, as required by the WBC, Floyd was 152 pounds.

                Both of these numbers are easily checkable, and are official, on-the-record facts. It's funny to me how little some "fans" know about the business.


                If you think that Floyd was 160 last night (despite ALL evidence to the contrary), then that means he re-hydrated FOURTEEN pounds after weigh-in. Does that make sense to you? Was that a weight-drained FMJ that tore through Marquez like that?


                The best evidence we have says FMJ was 152 pounds vs. Marquez.
                where is the proof? link?


                None?

                Shocker!!

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                • tito yuca
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by h2k
                  IMHO mayweather weights around 160-165lbs in the marquez fight
                  IMHO you're an idiot.

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                  • isidius
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                    #49
                    Who the fak cares...the fight is over and we all know the results...geez.

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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by h2k
                      IMHO mayweather weights around 160-165lbs in the marquez fight
                      LOL.


                      Thanks, man

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