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  • #11
    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

    You have Ruiz at 6 ,he hasn’t fought in over a year as well ? In fact Wilder fought more recently then he did .

    Wilder is still an anomaly anomaly \uh-NAH-muh-lee\ noun. 1 : something different, abnormal, peculiar, or not easily classified​ .

    Wilder is a top 10 otherwise it’s not very believable list . If he lost to Parker or how he loses you can make a case because that will be the nail in the coffin as far as being in a top spot light again but can still be a top 10 guy , Parker moves up in ranking and Wilder is just speculation. As it stands now he is favored over Parker , Wilder was also saved by the bell in his 13th fight you can use that logic to say he was never a top 10 fighter but we know that’s not how it works .


    I base my list on who I think can beat who or has defeated someone where I cannot rank someone over them by current activity not how long a fighter has been out of a ring ,it’s an advantage for Parker but it doesn’t mean we kick Wilder out of the top 10 otherwise you need to get rid of Ruiz if that’s your criteria because it’s an incorrect formula then .

    All these matches in Saudi isn’t going to tell me much really besides the Miller/ DDD and Sanchez/ Fa fights . They are good fights but I expect the projected outcomes to happen , I think Miller and Fa are the potential upsets otherwise my list isn’t going to change based on this card if all favorites win .

    I didnt say just out of the ring. Wilders last opponent was a guy who was somewhat relevant many many years ago. Ruiz didnt exactly fight the best either but betaing Ortiz is far better than beating Helenius.

    I do agree that Wilder has the x factor, which is basically just one punch and he likely beats Parker because of it. Tbh we're arguing over scraps, the only relevance in the division is the top 3 or 4 these days.

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    • #12
      Ruiz vs Usyk would be interesting. AJ used length against Ruiz in the 2nd fight. Usyk would have to jump in to get his combos off. I think Ruiz's hands are faster. Won't happen but interesting style match-up.

      Fury - Still think if you motivate him and he is the underdog he is dangerous.
      Usyk
      AJ
      Zhang
      Wilder

      Zhang vs Wilder is another interesting match-up that isn't going to happen.

      Would be nice if they all fought each other. That's what the Saudis should be doing with all the money.

      For now, Miller vs DDD is the only fight I'm interested in on the card.

      Parker and Wallin will box away from danger. Not interested in dancing heavyweight, enough of that at the midget weights. ​

      I want these guys on the canvas like Zhang/Joyce 2
      Last edited by hhh1200; 12-14-2023, 07:22 AM.

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      • #13
        1. Fury
        2. Usyk
        3. Wilder
        4. Joshua
        5. Ruiz
        6. Parker
        7. Ngannou
        8. Ortiz
        9. Wallin
        10. Whyte

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        • #14
          The demise of Fury is an overreaction. He looked poor because he didnt really train or motivate himself properly and came against a big strong guy. BUT it says a lot about also overrating somoenel ike Fury. I hope the GOAT talks are now over lol

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          • #15
            Yes, I think Parker is top 5

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            • #16
              1.Usyk
              2. Joshua
              3. Hrgovic
              4. Fury
              5. Parker
              6. Zhang
              7.Joyce
              8. Wilder
              9. Sanchez
              10. DDD

              Ruiz Ortiz Whyte are inactive time to start penalizing guys when you rank them . Wallin could arguably still be there but there’s way to many guys to stack 10 , Miller is top 15 . Wilder lost but so did Joyce and he’s obviously still a top fighter , still think these guys beat Kabayel and Mahkmudov is just not going anywhere unless he gets an actual trainer .
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-09-2024, 11:40 AM.

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              • #17
                We can make new list after every event. Fore example, i had Wallin top 10 before watching how badly he ****** fighting Joshua.

                Usyk, Zhang, Fury, Joshua, Hrgovic, Joyce, Parker

                These guys have done something, they can be separated from others.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                  We can make new list after every event. Fore example, i had Wallin top 10 before watching how badly he ****** fighting Joshua.

                  Usyk, Zhang, Fury, Joshua, Hrgovic, Joyce, Parker

                  These guys have done something, they can be separated from others.
                  LOL at Hrgovic as someone who has "done something".

                  But I agree with the sentiment, below the upper crust, which is basically just Fury, Usyk and AJ (I said this even before the Dec card), no one else really matters. Parker at best is in a position for an AJ rematch, Hrgovic is at best in line for a paper title but Parker is deserving of the no. 4 spot.

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                  • #19
                    I cannot wait for the Fury Usyk fight !! Been a fight on everyone has been asking for for a while now.

                    1. Fury (going to be crazy to see how he deals with Usyk angles and feet, does he still have it ?)

                    Usyk

                    Joshua, still shown he has the goods with the Wallin win, think he's too fast and athletic for Zhang and Hrgovic.

                    Zhang, just ahead of Hrgovic after his dominations of Joyce.

                    Hrgovic, needs to be tested again asap. List gets kinda interchangeable for me after this.

                    Joyce, still a fan, think Zhang just had his number, can't forget how kinda steamrolled Parker and DD in the end of their fights.

                    Ruiz, wasted career, come on Andy, have one final crack at the sport while you still can. Have no idea how good he is at the current time.

                    DDD, quit twice, no doubt he's skilled and will probably get better.

                    Sanchez.

                    Parker. win vs wilder who everyone seen how gone and unwilling he was in that ring, is he that much better than the guy whole lost comfortably to Joyce, doubt it


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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post

                      LOL at Hrgovic as someone who has "done something".

                      But I agree with the sentiment, below the upper crust, which is basically just Fury, Usyk and AJ (I said this even before the Dec card), no one else really matters. Parker at best is in a position for an AJ rematch, Hrgovic is at best in line for a paper title but Parker is deserving of the no. 4 spot.
                      Disagree. There are 6-7 guys that matter. Hrgovic is one of them. he beat Zhang who is top 5 also right now.

                      All of these guys can beat each other.

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