Comments Thread For: Usyk Cornerman on 9th Round: Usyk Was Weathering The Storm; Was Fine When He Came Back to Corner

[P to the J]

On a serious level now, I don’t mind Joshua. And if he had just been allowed to be himself all the way through, I’d be a huge fan. I can relate to certain parts of his story. It’s great boxing gave him an avenue.

I’ve been locked up, and when Joshua speaks on his near miss, he sounds proud he got caught dealing and was close to going jail. I can’t respect that at all! In odd interviews he loves bragging about what he was. Same with the uni students. He loves acting like he’s a gang ****er and that he’s in with them. When he isn’t at all. It’s the same reason lots of youth don’t respect him round the area he grew up in.

This ****** act he had going was worse thing he could do. It was always gonna catch upto him and that’s why people reacted the way they have.

He acted like he was an ATG and that popularity is most important and it’s just not. Now he wants to do U turn and he’s now this guy that’s got a quarter the experience as everyone else.

If that’s the case he should of turned down the Martin fight and gained experience with guys that could challenge him. Go watch Joshua opponents in his first 10/11 fights.

he was simply underprepared for the highest level. It’s why Eddie tried his best to avoid the fights he knew were dangerous. Once you a world champ you can’t moan about your lack of experience!

on the whole, he’s done brilliantly. Him and wilder to of started so late, become successful in olympics and both became heavyweight champs! If that ain’t success, I don’t have a clue what is.

It’s okay to be good but not good enough. When we start taking away from Usyk achievement and the pressure he was under though, it makes me resent Joshua, Eddie and his fans that are helping this agenda.

he lost. He will never beat usyk and his times up at the very top.

that’s ok too. But he needs to learn what his new role is. No more demands, no more ducking the fights the fans want. He has to step up now.

Excuse the clichè, but good on you for staying in the so-called “right track”, because though I have been lucky enough to avoid such situations myself, I
can only guess it’s a dark place to be, and that the journey to such is a slippery slope.


On AJ: as Dillian Whyte even noted, the Saturday morning cartoon, 80s American cereal box sports star marketing was an ill fit for this man, and it’s manifested, I believe, in a conflict between who he is, and what post-olympics/ Matchroom commercial demands dictate that he should be.

Forget even this post-fight interview; in all of them, win or lose, he’s seemed like he’s trying too hard to be likeable as per the needs of “the game” while barely concealing conceit.

Can see exactly where ppl are coming from with the dislike, but I put a large part of it down to the dehumanising influence of capitalism (as always) attempting to shape the attitudes of young, famous people; in this instance, young, underprivileged men and the results are clear: a lot of these boxers turn into knobheads and/or end up on the brink of suicide as they can’t keep up with either the hyper masculine or clean cut, choir boy personalities they’re supposed to put on.



Yeah, he and other late starters have had a hell of a career, though, and maybe they’ll be happy in retrospect with what they’ve achieved.

What you’re describing of the way his career’s been handled by Hearn, though, I’m sure can be applied to most boxers on a route to stardom.

[Patsfan bri]

As much as the commentators wanted to will it into existence, Usyk was never in any trouble - he let Joshua shoot his load rather than engage.

I agree. The commentary team as usual were all about Aj. They called a completely different fight than I saw.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I agree. The commentary team as usual were all about Aj. They called a completely different fight than I saw.

Did they actually do that? After that round they said a lot of AJ punches missed as far as I remember. Actually they were blowing smoke up Uysk most of the fight : "The master", "the expert boxer" etc. Fair enough though.

Rewatched that fight today and actually thought AJ did well. You don't see many HWs of AJ's size working that hard and boxing that well. Usyk is just better than him. Could see AJ was visibly tiring even before the 9th but definitely much better stamina than before.

Given how much abuse McCracken got - it does feel like double-standards when people are giving AJ's corner a pass. They were telling him he was winning all the rounds. If it was McCracken doing that he would have got slaughtered. I don't think AJ could have won that fight BUT what was he going to do if he thought he was winning?? He's hardly going to put it all out there.

Seen some quotes from Garcia where he is covering himself and blaming it on AJ. But don't buy it myself. McCracken wouldn't get that pass if he was telling AJ that.

[RoadMan94]

Excuse the clichè, but good on you for staying in the so-called “right track”, because though I have been lucky enough to avoid such situations myself, I
can only guess it’s a dark place to be, and that the journey to such is a slippery slope.


On AJ: as Dillian Whyte even noted, the Saturday morning cartoon, 80s American cereal box sports star marketing was an ill fit for this man, and it’s manifested, I believe, in a conflict between who he is, and what post-olympics/ Matchroom commercial demands dictate that he should be.

Forget even this post-fight interview; in all of them, win or lose, he’s seemed like he’s trying too hard to be likeable as per the needs of “the game” while barely concealing conceit.

Can see exactly where ppl are coming from with the dislike, but I put a large part of it down to the dehumanising influence of capitalism (as always) attempting to shape the attitudes of young, famous people; in this instance, young, underprivileged men and the results are clear: a lot of these boxers turn into knobheads and/or end up on the brink of suicide as they can’t keep up with either the hyper masculine or clean cut, choir boy personalities they’re supposed to put on.



Yeah, he and other late starters have had a hell of a career, though, and maybe they’ll be happy in retrospect with what they’ve achieved.

What you’re describing of the way his career’s been handled by Hearn, though, I’m sure can be applied to most boxers on a route to stardom.

Enjoyed reading this and it is actually Food for thought for myself so I appreciate that.

[billeau2]

No No No!!! the translater got it all wrong!!! What the guy actually said was: "Usyk was beside himself, a mere shell of his pre 9th round existence! he wanted us to throw the towel in, but we promised him extra kasha if he just went back out and threw punches!"

[BodyBagz]

Because most of the shots missed.
Those that didn't were deflected or didn't land flush.

Usyk sat back and let AJ waste energy.
Energy AJ was clearly saving for such an attack.