Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia Pleased With Anthony Joshua's Motivation For Quick Return

[PRINCEKOOL]

Some call it trickery, others call it boxing! Wlad beat Jennings the same year he fought Fury. He had a LONG layoff after Fury, then fought Joshua. training camps are not the same as fighting opponents!

No, I disagree. If people are 100% honest, they will admit that 90% of the fight is won in training camp. People need to just cut the nonsense out and be real.

Fighters don't just turn up in condition and battle ready, training camps are what essentially win fights 'And Kiltschko went through three back to back training camps'.

During all of that time, he was heavy in training. First for the two fights Fury pulled out of, and then the final training camp for Joshua.

Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition mate, he has even stated this himself.

A man of science, expert in his field has admitted that he was in greater condition for Joshua.

Just face the facts, Fury's performance vs Kiltschko was underwhelming. His fight against Whyte at assembly was also more of the same 'Partly because Whyte had regressed'.

While Joshua vs Kiltschko was the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years.

Kiltschko had issues outside the ring leading up to his fight with Fury, I have noticed that you do not want to acknowledge this.

I still think it was a complete injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a champion of almost a decade was denied his opportunity to win his belts back vs Tyson Fury.

Kiltschko would of done better in the rematch, it is unfortunate that the fight never happened. Unfortunate for both fighters. Because Fury got the win, but I don't think his win over Kiltschko was as conclusive as Anthony Joshua's win etc.

[Bronx2245]

No, I disagree. If people are 100% honest, they will admit that 90% of the fight is won in training camp. People need to just cut the nonsense out and be real.

Fighters don't just turn up in condition and battle ready, training camps are what essentially win fights 'And Kiltschko went through three back to back training camps'.

During all of that time, he was heavy in training. First for the two fights Fury pulled out of, and then the final training camp for Joshua.

Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition mate, he has even stated this himself.

A man of science, expert in his field has admitted that he was in greater condition for Joshua.

Just face the facts, Fury's performance vs Kiltschko was underwhelming. His fight against Whyte at assembly was also more of the same 'Partly because Whyte had regressed'.

While Joshua vs Kiltschko was the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years.

Kiltschko had issues outside the ring leading up to his fight with Fury, I have noticed that you do not want to acknowledge this.

I still think it was a complete injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko a champion of almost a decade was denied his opportunity to win his belts back vs Tyson Fury.

Kiltschko would of done better in the rematch, it is unfortunate that the fight never happened. Unfortunate for both fighters. Because Fury got the win, but I don't think his win over Kiltschko was as conclusive as Anthony Joshua's win etc.

OK then, if we're going to do that, then we have to admit Andy Ruiz had issues outside the ring before he fought the rematch with Joshua, so therefore he's better than Joshua! I don't want to go there, because we would have to do that with everyone! Fury beat Wlad, when he was active. Joshua beat Wlad, but he was inactive. Winner Fury!

Andy Ruiz Jr. Says 'Partying' and Weight Gain Contributed to Anthony Joshua Loss

Andy Ruiz Jr. has blamed poor lifestyle and weight gain for his heavyweight title defeat on Saturday to Anthony Joshua.

The Mexican was outclassed as the Brit became a two-time WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO heavyweight champion of the world, with Joshua scoring a unanimous 118-110, 118-110, 119-109 points win in Saudi Arabia.

According to Luke Reddy of BBC Sport, Ruiz admitted he failed to reach prime condition before the fight because of excessive partying and celebrating after his shock win over AJ on June 1 in New York. The Mexican tipped the scales 15 pounds heavier before the rematch, and he was dominated by Joshua for most of the fight

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ny-joshua-loss

Are we going to allow this as a legit excuse?

[PRINCEKOOL]

OK then, if we're going to do that, then we have to admit Andy Ruiz had issues outside the ring before he fought the rematch with Joshua, so therefore he's better than Joshua! I don't want to go there, because we would have to do that with everyone! Fury beat Wlad, when he was active. Joshua beat Wlad, but he was inactive. Winner Fury!

Andy Ruiz Jr. Says 'Partying' and Weight Gain Contributed to Anthony Joshua Loss

Andy Ruiz Jr. has blamed poor lifestyle and weight gain for his heavyweight title defeat on Saturday to Anthony Joshua.

The Mexican was outclassed as the Brit became a two-time WBA, WBO, IBF and IBO heavyweight champion of the world, with Joshua scoring a unanimous 118-110, 118-110, 119-109 points win in Saudi Arabia.

According to Luke Reddy of BBC Sport, Ruiz admitted he failed to reach prime condition before the fight because of excessive partying and celebrating after his shock win over AJ on June 1 in New York. The Mexican tipped the scales 15 pounds heavier before the rematch, and he was dominated by Joshua for most of the fight

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ny-joshua-loss

Are we going to allow this as a legit excuse?

You can use it as a excuse mate. Because if you do, you are proving me right 'So go for it'. Proving me right, that fights are 90% won or lost in training camp. Fighters don't just turn up to the ring in shape and battle ready, it is training camps which help achieve this state.

In one of your prior posts, you disagreed with my statement. That Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition for Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury.

My reasoning for this opinion, was that Wladimir Kiltschko had endured three back to back training camps. That was what he was doing during the entire time people claim he was inactive. When in reality he was not stereo typically inactive.

He had went through 2 training camps for the two Tyson Fury fights, which Fury pulled out of. And then finally a 3rd and final training camp for Anthony Joshua.

Wladimir Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Anthony Joshua, and 245 pounds vs Tyson Fury.

Andy Ruiz Junior fought approximately 6 weeks before the first Anthony Joshua fight, and then the rematch was round about 6 months later. So Andy Ruiz Junior by the time the rematch with Anthony Joshua was scheduled, was onto his 3rd fight in 6 months 'So we can all agree, that he was active fighter'.

So Ruiz Junior was more active than Wladimir Kiltschko, but not in as great as condition why is that? I will tell you why, because of the quality of his training camp.

By trying to catch me out, you are proving yourself wrong and ME right.

If everybody is honest with themselves, they will all admit. That training camps are pretty much the most influential variable as to why fights are won and lost. They are by far more beneficial for a fighter, than having a easy fight against a opponent that does not test them. So this notion that being a stereo typically active fighter, is the be and end all of everything is to certain degree nonsense.

Wladimir Kiltschko endured 3 back to back training camps, in my opinion he was in better condition for Joshua and in his own expert opinion 'That was also his belief'.

So if you still believe that being active is not as beneficial as actually training and having battle ready training camps. Why are you posting this article? Tell me why you are posting this article?

Note: I will tell you exactly why? Because deep down, you know that training camps are pretty much the most influential variables as to why fights are won and lost. You know this, everybody on this forum knows this, everybody boxing coach knows this, and every fighter in the game knows this etc.

[Bronx2245]

You can use it as a excuse mate. Because if you do, you are proving me right 'So go for it'. Proving me right, that fights are 90% won or lost in training camp. Fighters don't just turn up to the ring in shape and battle ready, it is training camps which help achieve this state.

In one of your prior posts, you disagreed with my statement. That Wladimir Kiltschko was in better condition for Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury.

My reasoning for this opinion, was that Wladimir Kiltschko had endured three back to back training camps. That was what he was doing during the entire time people claim he was inactive. When in reality he was not stereo typically inactive.

He had went through 2 training camps for the two Tyson Fury fights, which Fury pulled out of. And then finally a 3rd and final training camp for Anthony Joshua.

Wladimir Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Anthony Joshua, and 245 pounds vs Tyson Fury.

Andy Ruiz Junior fought approximately 6 weeks before the first Anthony Joshua fight, and then the rematch was round about 6 months later. So Andy Ruiz Junior by the time the rematch with Anthony Joshua was scheduled, was onto his 3rd fight in 6 months 'So we can all agree, that he was active fighter'.

So Ruiz Junior was more active than Wladimir Kiltschko, but not in as great as condition why is that? I will tell you why, because of the quality of his training camp.

By trying to catch me out, you are proving yourself wrong and ME right.

If everybody is honest with themselves, they will all admit. That training camps are pretty much the most influential variable as to why fights are won and lost. They are by far more beneficial for a fighter, than having a easy fight against a opponent that does not test them. So this notion that being a stereo typically active fighter, is the be and end all of everything is to certain degree nonsense.

Wladimir Kiltschko endured 3 back to back training camps, in my opinion he was in better condition for Joshua and in his own expert opinion 'That was also his belief'.

So if you still believe that being active is not as beneficial as actually training and having battle ready training camps. Why are you posting this article? Tell me why you are posting this article?

Note: I will tell you exactly why? Because deep down, you know that training camps are pretty much the most influential variables as to why fights are won and lost. You know this, everybody on this forum knows this, everybody boxing coach knows this, and every fighter in the game knows this etc.

I'm posting the article because many fighters have excuses AFTER they lose, but I don't accept them! If you lost, you lost! I'm not going to steal shine from Fury's win, because Wlad said he didn't train well in camp AFTER he lost! Are we going to give props to Fury because he didn't give Wlad a rematch because he had mental issues, and addiction problems? Are we going to accept Tyson's loss to Douglass because he was partying in Japan?