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  • #21
    Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post
    Send him right back to Oxnard where he came from. AJ needs to go Kronk will take another silly defeat messing with this dude. Got paid big money to talk and be the 2nd in the corner to the 1st who is nothing but a 2nd. AJ is screwed with Garcia and Fernandez. What's wrong with this dude!
    AJ would get faceplanted if he trained at Kronk sounds like you are just hating because Robert isn't the same skin color as AJ.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

      Fury still has to prove he's the best. His best win is Klitschko. That's Joshua's also. If Fury beats Usyk then fair enough. If he loses to him he's probably good for it. Although also actually fighting and beating Joshua would help his case also. He's spent most of his career ridiculing Joshua, if he doesn't man up to him it's a bad look. The Americans are big on the triangle theory, so Fury still has a bit to do.
      So the Wlad in 11/2015, is the same as the Wlad in 4/2017, without having fought anyone in between? Then Fury crushes Wilder in back-to-back fights, While Joshua got KO'd by Fat Andy, nearly KO'd in Usyk I, and beat again in Usyk II. Until proven otherwise, Fury is the best!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        So the Wlad in 11/2015, is the same as the Wlad in 4/2017, without having fought anyone in between? Then Fury crushes Wilder in back-to-back fights, While Joshua got KO'd by Fat Andy, nearly KO'd in Usyk I, and beat again in Usyk II. Until proven otherwise, Fury is the best!
        Well the Wlad that Fury fought was seriously lacking in motivation and had lost the fire in the belly. He admitted that himself. Fury pecked his way to a cigarette paper thin victory. He knew what he was doing when he pulled out of their rematch that never was. He saw in Wlads eyes he was mad, and the hunger would be back. That hunger was there for the Joshua fight imo. And after coming through some tough adversive moments, Joshua won in a more convincing manner. You only have to go and check out interviews and reports of the fights, to get an impression of what Klitschko's performance's were like. Wlad, Vitality, their manager Bonte, and the German media in general, where his career was predominantly based, all said that, after his Fury performance he was a shadow of his former self. They all acknowledged after his Joshua performance, that the hunger was back, and despite losing, it was up there with some of his career best performances, and on the night the better man won. To me that says more, than the fans of either fighter who may show bias. After Joshua beat Wlad, Fury fans couldn't belittle his performance quick enough claiming that Wlad was now shot, and that it was all down to Fury. That's just bollox. A narrative spun to say my guys better than your guy. People can argue over which performance was better, but one things for certain, is that the Joshua performance, if not better, certainly wasn't any worse. So on that point they are equal. Wilder wouldn't fight Wlad.

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        • #24
          "...and then everything had a good ending." Not by a long shot, Mr. Garcia. Inappropriate, disrespectful, unsportsmanlike, baby tantrum. Narcissist in denial. Foretold his own greatness all this time, peddling his inevitable legendary story that will now not come to be. Just a spoiled person at his core. This is about him losing his sponsors. They are jumping off his train because the story of the Goliath Adonis has been slain by two Davids — the easily and oft underestimated Andy Ruiz and now cruiserweight-turned-heavyweight Usyk. At the end what eats at him is that he does not have the chin, the stamina and ultimately the courage. He had an opportunity to close the show but he would've had to expose his chin more. Instead he gassed out. And that was his decision. Deep down he is regretting it... that his caution, which he ultimately reads as a lack of courage... his fear got the better of him... TWICE. Deep inside he tells himself that Usyk did not win, rather he let himself lose. But now that it has happened twice, the story the sponsors have bought into has been obliterated.
          Last edited by OhMightyThanos; 08-30-2022, 06:57 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
            So the Wlad in 11/2015, is the same as the Wlad in 4/2017, without having fought anyone in between? Then Fury crushes Wilder in back-to-back fights, While Joshua got KO'd by Fat Andy, nearly KO'd in Usyk I, and beat again in Usyk II. Until proven otherwise, Fury is the best!
            I commend Fury for beating Wilder, and in the manner he did. But Joshua, despite trying, was never given that opportunity. He may well, and imo would, do the same. Wilder hasn't even really proven he's a top 5 heavy. His resume is poor. There's one guy in his win column I give him true credit for and that's Ortiz. But he was outboxed no doubt, in both those fights and his power got it done. We don't even know if Wilder will beat, Fat Andy, Shyte, Usyk, even Chisora. For me he dodged a serious bullet when Povetkin failed his test, as I think he'd have beaten Wilder. Especially as it was to be in Russia. He's fighting Helenius next. I fully expect him to KO him. But I also think he could get outboxed also. Whyte has beaten Helenius and in reality, so has Chisora, who was robbed out in Finland. Wilder, can never claim he's the best, as can't Joshua. But Wilder has a lot of work to do, to prove that he's anything other than a right hand. Usyk, Joshua, Whyte and Fat Andy are all there, all will fight him, and imo, all are capable of beating him. At this point in time, if he sees off the Nordic Nightmare, the only realistic one that he'll face, is Fat Andy, who by the way, imo may also beat Fury. There's so many fights we still need to see. But Fury is looking for a way out, and Wilder I believe will fold if he loses again. He can't say he's the best. He sure as hell won't be able to handle not even being second best. And Usyk in my opinion, is possibly the best of them all. He's the only one for Joshua, I truly feared. I was hoping that he would get a shot at undisputed before facing Usyk, because I always felt that Usyk would be too classy for him. And maybe for the rest also.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              So the Wlad in 11/2015, is the same as the Wlad in 4/2017, without having fought anyone in between? Then Fury crushes Wilder in back-to-back fights, While Joshua got KO'd by Fat Andy, nearly KO'd in Usyk I, and beat again in Usyk II. Until proven otherwise, Fury is the best!
              Wladimir Kiltschko endured 3 back to back training camps, and was weighing in at 240 pounds for Joshua vs 245 pounds for Fury. In my opinion, and also Kiltscko's own opinion? He was in better condition for Anthony Joshua.

              Wladimir Kiltschko had issues leading up to the Tyson Fury fight, his woman was ill. But nobody wants to acknowledge or talk about this etc.

              Ether which way, Joshua not only beat Kiltschko he knocked him out. Fury got the win, but he stole the fight with trickery 'Fury was backed up all night by Kiltschko'.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                Well the Wlad that Fury fought was seriously lacking in motivation and had lost the fire in the belly. He admitted that himself. Fury pecked his way to a cigarette paper thin victory. He knew what he was doing when he pulled out of their rematch that never was. He saw in Wlads eyes he was mad, and the hunger would be back. That hunger was there for the Joshua fight imo. And after coming through some tough adversive moments, Joshua won in a more convincing manner. You only have to go and check out interviews and reports of the fights, to get an impression of what Klitschko's performance's were like. Wlad, Vitality, their manager Bonte, and the German media in general, where his career was predominantly based, all said that, after his Fury performance he was a shadow of his former self. They all acknowledged after his Joshua performance, that the hunger was back, and despite losing, it was up there with some of his career best performances, and on the night the better man won. To me that says more, than the fans of either fighter who may show bias. After Joshua beat Wlad, Fury fans couldn't belittle his performance quick enough claiming that Wlad was now shot, and that it was all down to Fury. That's just bollox. A narrative spun to say my guys better than your guy. People can argue over which performance was better, but one things for certain, is that the Joshua performance, if not better, certainly wasn't any worse. So on that point they are equal. Wilder wouldn't fight Wlad.
                The Wlad that Fury fought in November 2015, had just beat Jennings in April 2015. The Wlad that Joshua fought April 2017, had not fought since he lost to Fury in November 2015! Winner Fury!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                  Wladimir Kiltschko endured 3 back to back training camps, and was weighing in at 240 pounds for Joshua vs 245 pounds for Fury. In my opinion, and also Kiltscko's own opinion? He was in better condition for Anthony Joshua.

                  Wladimir Kiltschko had issues leading up to the Tyson Fury fight, his woman was ill. But nobody wants to acknowledge or talk about this etc.

                  Ether which way, Joshua not only beat Kiltschko he knocked him out. Fury got the win, but he stole the fight with trickery 'Fury was backed up all night by Kiltschko'.
                  Some call it trickery, others call it boxing! Wlad beat Jennings the same year he fought Fury. He had a LONG layoff after Fury, then fought Joshua. training camps are not the same as fighting opponents!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    The Wlad that Fury fought in November 2015, had just beat Jennings in April 2015. The Wlad that Joshua fought April 2017, had not fought since he lost to Fury in November 2015! Winner Fury!
                    Wlad had been on the decline, looking uninterested for a while prior to the Fury fight. Because the competition level was lacking. It was no secret, he was struggling to get up for fights. The fight he wanted was Wilder. For undisputed. That's what would have put the fire back in his belly. Not Fury, who had no power and was looking vulnerable. But Wilder, who had the belt he needed, and a big punch that was exciting people. Finkel prevented that from happening. Just as he went on to prevent undisputed against Joshua. You only have to watch Wlads performance against Fury. He was dreadful. He barely threw. So yes, he was clearly lacking in motivation. And beating Jennings, who he also looked sluggish against, was no great feat.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                      Wlad had been on the decline, looking uninterested for a while prior to the Fury fight. Because the competition level was lacking. It was no secret, he was struggling to get up for fights. The fight he wanted was Wilder. For undisputed. That's what would have put the fire back in his belly. Not Fury, who had no power and was looking vulnerable. But Wilder, who had the belt he needed, and a big punch that was exciting people. Finkel prevented that from happening. Just as he went on to prevent undisputed against Joshua. You only have to watch Wlads performance against Fury. He was dreadful. He barely threw. So yes, he was clearly lacking in motivation. And beating Jennings, who he also looked sluggish against, was no great feat.
                      I don't understand the emphasis on "disinterest?" Is that a legit excuse for Joshua losing to Ruiz? He was "disinterested" because he didn't get a Wilder fight? Is that an excuse Lomachenko losing to Teofimo Lopez? He was "disinterested" because he wanted a fight with Tank instead?

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