Comments Thread For: Impartiality Might Be Dead, But at Least AJ Was Getting Real

[harry-greb]

I think you need to get a grip mate, and sort your attitude out. And everyone who agree's with you, also needs to do the same.

Most fighters at some point in their career, let their frustration, emotions or competitiveness boil over. This has resulted in brawls, verbal abuse and threats.

Chisora had a brawl with David Haye, Mike Tyson has done similar with numerous opponents 'Outside the ring, during build ups and actually after fights'.

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bower, Roberto Duran, these are all 'All time great fighters who are highly respected, who have let the heat of competition spill over at some point'.

Do you want me to post the video's? Do you have any idea, about the history of boxing? Does anyone on this forum or thread have any idea about the history of boxing and how historically fighters have behaved at times? I am completely amazed by what I am reading here. I think it is absolutely pathetic.

Muhammad Ali, yes that is right Muhammad Ali has also many a times let the competition boil over outside the ring. There are some very notorious and famous incidents, regarding Sonny Listen and Joe Frazier many more of his opponents. That is why I truly do not understand this backlash with Anthony Joshua, it is definitely a result of some kind of agenda against Joshua 'That is more sinister than it originally appears'.

There must be a institutionalized agenda, which some people fall for because they are lemmings. Fury has just given a interview with talk sport were he for close to 20 minutes gave Usyk heavy abuse and no real acknowledgement that he is great boxer 'How come he is not being criticized for this, if you guys are all so upset by Joshua small outburst?'.

So what is your issue? Boxing is a very real sport, with very real dangers and consequences. How Anthony Joshua behaved on the weekend was extremely mild, very tame compared to most of the incidents that have happened in boxing.

So why is he being overly criticized? I tell you why, because there is a growing completely fake virtue signalling cult in boxing. Of people who pine over sportsmanship.

Are you one of them? Are you one of these people who pine over seeing boxers, hugging, shaking hands and being best mates before fights? Surely I am not the only posters who have noticed this group of people. For me the only respect opponents need to show each other, is preparing optimally and not cheating 'And as far as I am concerned Anthony Joshua did just that'.

Did you even watch the build up to Wilder vs Fury I, II, III 'The things both fighters said, and how they behaved was way more hostile than Joshua'. But that is alright, I have no issue with this, that is what you call 'Passion, raw competitive passion'.

It happens mate, John Mcenroe used to react and let the passion of competition boil over all of the time. What is worst? How Anthony Joshua behaved or this below?

It is just a combination of passion, frustration and competitiveness. Get a grip people, pathetic.

Let also factor in that Joshua apologized after the fight. He was clearly suffering after the fight, and you can tell by how he behaved none of that was natural to him.

Note: I want to let people know in general, that it is alright to overtly show passion. It is not a crime to let frustration and competitiveness boil over sometimes 'Depending on the actions you take'. Anthony Joshua did not threaten anybody, he did not attack anybody physically, all he did was give a suffering and painful speech 'I personally did not like seeing it because, I could see that Joshua was suffering and needed to be stopped by his team'.

Can we take any positives from it? I think if your a Joshua fan you can 'It shows that he has not truly accepted the loss, and he still wants to win real bad'. How many fighters are there these days who deep down, don't compete intrinsically to win 'Joshua is not one of those fighters'.

There is a definitely a institutionalized agenda against Joshua.

Couldn't agree more.

[Realboxlife]

Great article

[War Room]

I can't believe people are trying to put a positive spin on this. It is ugly to watch any man lose control of his emotions. If people think that is ok then standards will drop even further. Also, Joshua got away with it because he is BIG and everyone was literally terrified of him except Chisora who went up to him. It's not a good sign when people let stuff like this go.

I'm sivck of the transfer of blame myself. Everybody is giving this guy a break, people =---> you got played. This is all persona branding. AJ is in complete control and this is the road he chose to travel. No excuses, stand tall, and take your lumps like a man.

[PredatorStyle]

I think you need to get a grip mate, and sort your attitude out. And everyone who agree's with you, also needs to do the same.

Most fighters at some point in their career, let their frustration, emotions or competitiveness boil over. This has resulted in brawls, verbal abuse and threats.

Chisora had a brawl with David Haye, Mike Tyson has done similar with numerous opponents 'Outside the ring, during build ups and actually after fights'.

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bower, Roberto Duran, these are all 'All time great fighters who are highly respected, who have let the heat of competition spill over at some point'.

Do you want me to post the video's? Do you have any idea, about the history of boxing? Does anyone on this forum or thread have any idea about the history of boxing and how historically fighters have behaved at times? I am completely amazed by what I am reading here. I think it is absolutely pathetic.

Muhammad Ali, yes that is right Muhammad Ali has also many a times let the competition boil over outside the ring. There are some very notorious and famous incidents, regarding Sonny Listen and Joe Frazier many more of his opponents. That is why I truly do not understand this backlash with Anthony Joshua, it is definitely a result of some kind of agenda against Joshua 'That is more sinister than it originally appears'.

There must be a institutionalized agenda, which some people fall for because they are lemmings. Fury has just given a interview with talk sport were he for close to 20 minutes gave Usyk heavy abuse and no real acknowledgement that he is great boxer 'How come he is not being criticized for this, if you guys are all so upset by Joshua small outburst?'.

So what is your issue? Boxing is a very real sport, with very real dangers and consequences. How Anthony Joshua behaved on the weekend was extremely mild, very tame compared to most of the incidents that have happened in boxing.

So why is he being overly criticized? I tell you why, because there is a growing completely fake virtue signalling cult in boxing. Of people who pine over sportsmanship.

Are you one of them? Are you one of these people who pine over seeing boxers, hugging, shaking hands and being best mates before fights? Surely I am not the only posters who have noticed this group of people. For me the only respect opponents need to show each other, is preparing optimally and not cheating 'And as far as I am concerned Anthony Joshua did just that'.

Did you even watch the build up to Wilder vs Fury I, II, III 'The things both fighters said, and how they behaved was way more hostile than Joshua'. But that is alright, I have no issue with this, that is what you call 'Passion, raw competitive passion'.

It happens mate, John Mcenroe used to react and let the passion of competition boil over all of the time. What is worst? How Anthony Joshua behaved or this below?

It is just a combination of passion, frustration and competitiveness. Get a grip people, pathetic.

Let also factor in that Joshua apologized after the fight. He was clearly suffering after the fight, and you can tell by how he behaved none of that was natural to him.

Note: I want to let people know in general, that it is alright to overtly show passion. It is not a crime to let frustration and competitiveness boil over sometimes 'Depending on the actions you take'. Anthony Joshua did not threaten anybody, he did not attack anybody physically, all he did was give a suffering and painful speech 'I personally did not like seeing it because, I could see that Joshua was suffering and needed to be stopped by his team'.

Can we take any positives from it? I think if your a Joshua fan you can 'It shows that he has not truly accepted the loss, and he still wants to win real bad'. How many fighters are there these days who deep down, don't compete intrinsically to win 'Joshua is not one of those fighters'.

There is a definitely a institutionalized agenda against Joshua.

I think I didn't make myself clear enough. I wasn't condemning Joshua for losing his cool; it was the apathetic response on the people in general. You seem to be focused on what Joshua did but that is not what I was remarking on. It's the tolerant reaction that surprised me because it shows people have no standards. It should have been condemned on principle, without making it personally about Joshua. My problem is it sets a precedent for big men to throw their weight about and everyone just meekly accepts it.

Think of it like this; if if a lightweight had done it, or a less famous fighter; what would be the reaction? I think you will see that people let it fly and have even tried to justify it because it was Joshua. Because he is both big physically and in media terms.

But, that is the very antithesis of moral integrity - aka hypocrisy.

[PredatorStyle]

Great Post and very educational for these keyboard toughies who don't seem to have the foggiest clue of what they are talking about.

Oh yeah, he totally educated people with a load of emotional, subjective drivel. Next you will tell us we can start crapping in public, right? I mean why not; if we no longer have to control our emotions then why bother controlling bodily function?

Pff. Amateur's.

[RoadMan94]

Pointing finger is for the delusional and dishonest individuals like you. Be honest for once and look and listening around you wherever you come from. We all are partisan and biased to certain degree. If AJ were your favourite boxer your comment would have sounded differently.

BTW, what's your headache if someone wants to sympathiser with AJ and or show him some compassion? You are just hating for the sake of it.

Because I like to listen to talksport. It isn’t that difficult is it? They drive me mad when they just wanna **** on about Man Utd too. I like to hear unbiased views by people that are professionals and employed to be inpartial. I don’t wanna hear nepotism constantly.

where in my comment is the word “Hate” located?

sounds to me you are emotionally invested. Have you even got a point to make or was this you releasing some emotion? Because I’m struggling to see what on earth the point is you are trying to make. You are going to have to explain a little better.

Do you understand that these sports journalist are not there to lie and make up things just because they like one fighter involved in a bout.

You need to go back to youre post, read it out aloud, think about what your saying and then delete it.

next you’ll want the commentators to just be pro AJ from minute one to the end. And If he gets outboxed then should they tell us he didn’t and he lost by a tiny margin?

you are funny mate. Like seriously, how are people born lacking so much common sense.

[RoadMan94]

Oh yeah, he totally educated people with a load of emotional, subjective drivel. Next you will tell us we can start crapping in public, right? I mean why not; if we no longer have to control our emotions then why bother controlling bodily function?

Pff. Amateur's.

Boxviewer is unable to separate his emotions from fact. It’s best to Educate him like I have and move on. This dude is out here doing the very thing he’s accusing others of doing.

Typical Joshua fan Shill. I don’t mind Joshua, but his cult like fans, they really do need novichok put in their food.

[RoadMan94]

Pointing finger is for the delusional and dishonest individuals like you. Be honest for once and look and listening around you wherever you come from. We all are partisan and biased to certain degree. If AJ were your favourite boxer your comment would have sounded differently.

BTW, what's your headache if someone wants to sympathiser with AJ and or show him some compassion? You are just hating for the sake of it.

Hahaha how amazing. Liked by greeneye. This guy is desperate to taste my fore skin. Little does he know, I don’t have one!!!

[Toffee]

The article posts a reasonable question in asking where we can go for impartial boxing media.

The answer is you don't. The bigger media channels aren't impartial. Youtubers aren't impartial. Internet forums aren't impartial. No-one is impartial. Does anyone think the Ukrainian media would have been impartial?

It's a one on one fight. If you genuinely didn't care who won then you probably wouldn't watch.

Think for yourself.

You like what you like. Whether that's a particular style, a back story, because you're financial incentivised, or because you simply want the opportunity to get a reaction.

Personally, my biggest takeaway from the article was that a writer can't seem to get his grammar or punctuation in order before hitting submit.