Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: It Would Only Be Fair For Lomachenko To Face Haney-Kambosos Winner

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #31
    Originally posted by richardt

    What's good for the Goose, is good for the Gander so if Haney is uncomfortable fighting Loma due to the time when they were in reversed position, Haney should he allowed to chose who he wants to fight. It's like when JMM told Pac so-to-speak that he wanted to keep his feel-good moment. Then when Bradley beat JMM, I would hope that if JMM had pursued Bradley that Bradley would have said, no, I'd like to keep my feel-good moment. What goes around, comes around. All fighters, Loma included, have to live with the consequences of their decisions. But I hope Haney does what he is most comfortable with, though agreements, contracts, and money often rule.
    Agreed. Very well posted. Professional pettiness. Lol.

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      #32
      Originally posted by TheUptownKid
      Loma is being rewarded for his “fan base”. He lost his belts before the war fought two mid contenders after and is deserving of jumping the line because…? He’ll get the fight bc it’s already signed, but he is by no means deserving
      You’re gonna piss a lot of posters off with this right here.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        It would also be fair if Shakur Stevenson got to fight the Haney vs. Kambosos winner, if he chose that route. Loma had a chance to fight Haney a long time ago, and chose not to, so if Shakur wants it, give it to him, and let Loma face the Haney vs. Stevenson winner.
        I think ultimately Arum needs Shakur to beat Loma to elevate him. So this would be the way to go if Arum’s matchmakers tell him they think Haney beats Loma.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DClefthook

          I don't know why you would LMFAO since Loma refused to fight Haney who was his mandatory as he hid behind the franchise "NBF" belt, which is the precise dictionary definition of avoidance. If I were Devin I wouldn't give Loma a shot at all the belts. After he whoops Kambozo, he should demand to fight the winner of Commey/Pedraza. Drop the Wbo belt since Loma is his Wbo mandatory and make Loma v Shakur for the vacant title. Then after his 3 fight contract is up with Bob take those belts over to Showtime and get your big money PPV fight with the Tank-ster! Treat others just like they treat you!
          I like your train of thought there, would love to see him control his own destiny, and eventually make a big money PPV with Tank. It would also silence the criticism of "these guys take the easy fights. "

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            #35
            Originally posted by TDLand

            Clown? That's how you view a white top of the echelon boxer with 2 gold medals and 5 major belts in first 15 fights? Sounds prejudicial for sure. Tribalism.

            Typical idiots who say Loma is the great white hope and goaded Haney to continue his racist rant, 'no white Boi will ever beat me in the ring' when asked about Loma, repeatedly parrot the narrative that Loma, for some God forsaken reason, ducked Haney.

            The false narrative bandied about so easily with low IQ veracity is beyond ******. It's low level kindergarten 101 logic not with clarity but perverted bias, making it up, twisting events to some made belief truth.


            Franchise belt? A mando couldn't be ordered before the fight for undisputed and never was ordered. Per sanctioning rules.

            Franchise was 100 percent about Loma and zero percent about Haney.

            So, Haney started baiting Loma in the media, saying, 'why don't you fight me first, constantly chirping'. Haney didn't need to do that if Hearns would but just get the Mando ordered. He couldn't and didn't. Read the rules or better if you ask nice I'll post them here.

            Loma had one goal, fight winner of Comey and Teo. Three belts and no Mando fights were ordered, because they couldn't. Loma never took Franchise to avoid Haney. The fight with Haney could not be ordered regardless. Loma said in the media he wants Teo and then Tank and then Haney, all before he fought Teo and lost.

            He wanted all the smoke with the belts, unlike Haney who now that he has all the belts wants to avoid all the heat.

            After Loma lost to Teo, Loma still wanted to fight Haney, not Commey and not Nagatani, but Haney said fine, 'for 5 mill', disingenuousy pricing himself out on purpose. Haney would lose to Nakatani or it would go to decision. Pillow fisted Haney could not put a dent into that man. Teo had a tough, tough time that went the distance for him, first time in his career. The guy, Haney, will run from Loma. He will duck Loma. He will drop all four belts rather than take the loss. If he fights Loma, Loma schools him. Guaranteed.

            He fought 13 champions in 15 fights. Haney would not be the best opponent on that list. Loma won his 2nd gold medal at the age Haney was fighting 0 and 0 opponents padding that weak, inept resume.

            Haney has reach, jab and shoulder roll and weak chin. Good luck against a superior boxer like Loma. Next you'll bring up Salido, Teo or Linares. Loma tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of the Linares fight and got knocked down in the 6th, but wasn't daized like Devon was in the 10th. Loma took out Linares in the 10th. He had a reinjury of same shoulder in Teo fight but did admirably where Teo was knocking out boxers left and right. Salido was a job, 45 low blows, not one point deducted. Salido came in overweight so shouldn't even have been fighting. 13 champions in 15 fights, 5 major belts in three divisions, while Haney was fighting guys with 0 and 0 records. C'mon, Loma is something Devon has never seen before. Devon is just another tune up for Loma, and after Loma dismantles him, you will be saying 'Yeah, but, he hasn't fought Tank yet, he hasn't fought Shakur yet, Haney was just another Ax man or another Rigo, a nobody'.
            We hear your cries, and we're here to help.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DClefthook

              I don't know why you would LMFAO since Loma refused to fight Haney who was his mandatory as he hid behind the franchise "NBF" belt, which is the precise dictionary definition of avoidance. If I were Devin I wouldn't give Loma a shot at all the belts. After he whoops Kambozo, he should demand to fight the winner of Commey/Pedraza. Drop the Wbo belt since Loma is his Wbo mandatory and make Loma v Shakur for the vacant title. Then after his 3 fight contract is up with Bob take those belts over to Showtime and get your big money PPV fight with the Tank-ster! Treat others just like they treat you!
              Yes, karma is a b!tch! Excellent post. Thanks.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I think ultimately Arum needs Shakur to beat Loma to elevate him. So this would be the way to go if Arum’s matchmakers tell him they think Haney beats Loma.
                For some reason, it seems that the business folks don't think 2 African-American fighters won't do good business? I think Tank vs. Haney is great, but the money folks want Tank vs. Garcia. I think Haney vs. Stevenson would be dope, but the money folks rather Haney vs. Loma. I hope we get Spence vs.. Crawford and I hope it's a big success! I wish they did it ATL instead of Las Vegas! I know the whole city would be lit, and there would be a whole different vibe!

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                  #38
                  Ppl round here are weird as ****

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                    #39
                    I kind of want to see Loma in action before I declare him the "obvious" choice. It seems like I like Lomachenko way more than most posters on this thread. That does not mean I think he deserves to be in the drivers seat in this division just because of his reputation. I want to see him win convincingly in this upcoming fight and then do an eliminator with a top 3 fighter. He wins both, make him the mandatory. Just seems like he is getting the name recognition treatment (which of course he is).

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by richardt
                      At the time it did but ultimately it didn't because Lopez had one more fight at 135 which was a mandatory and then he left the division which he would have done, win or lose against Kambosos. Lopez himself didn't press Kabosos for for a rematch due to the weight issue. I knew Loma and Lopez would never fight a second fight cause Lopez would not be able to stick around weight draining himself to make 135. So if there was a rematch clause, Lopez, would vacate the titles if he had beat Kombosos and then Loma would fight for the title or an eliminator for a title against one of the top guys.
                      An immediate rematch clause would have hastened things along. It's been nearly two years and two fights later, yet Lomachenko still hasn't had an opportunity to try to win back his belts.

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