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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Jose Pedraza vs. Richard Commey - Only So Much Room

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    I'd say they'd both still have some opportunities. African fighters tend to get pulled over to the UK as gatekeepers - whoever loses Taylor-Caterall could have a comeback fight against Commey if he loses.
    Pedraza is a name in the States. Once you have an established name you can continue fighting for paydays for quite a few years - prime case Hank Lundy

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    • Bronx2245
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      "Both are probably past their best days, aren’t getting any younger, and under any circumstance this would be a crossroads battle."

      Yeah, but still a decent scrap!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        "Both are probably past their best days, aren’t getting any younger, and under any circumstance this would be a crossroads battle."

        Yeah, but still a decent scrap!
        Not only is it a decent scrap, but I can't weight to see this particular fight.
        I find Cliff Rold's article unnecessarily critical about these two former champion's.
        Who can on any given day give the best in their division a good fight, if not beat them out right.

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          Those two guys really accept challenges and try to make a case for themselves to secure a bigger name. Look at their records even in losing they have fought the top of their division.

          This should be a good fight.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Boricua181

            Not only is it a decent scrap, but I can't weight to see this particular fight.
            I find Cliff Rold's article unnecessarily critical about these two former champion's.
            Who can on any given day give the best in their division a good fight, if not beat them out right.
            We haven't seen Commey at 140 yet, but he couldn't give the best at 135 a good fight (Lopez), nor could he beat them (Lomachenko). Pedraza did give Lomachenko a better fight than Commey, and he gave Ramirez a good fight, so I expect him to win this fight, and if he does, I wouldn't be surprised if he fights Teofimo Lopez at MSG next! I would rather Lopez vs. Barboza, but Bob knows if Pedraza beats Commey, he'll be a better draw with Teofimo IN NYC!
            Last edited by Bronx2245; 08-25-2022, 09:10 AM.

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              They might be past their best days, but this is a very good crossroads scrap. Both these guys, win or lose, have fought the best guys they can fight in their divisions. See Pedraza using his slickness to outbox Commey to a UD. If Lopez doesn't get a marquee fight next, him and Pedraza would do real numbers at MSG.

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              • Boricua181
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                #8
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                We haven't seen Commey at 140 yet, but he couldn't give the best at 135 a good fight (Lopez), nor could he beat them (Lomachenko). Pedraza did give Lomachenko a better fight than Commey, and he gave Ramirez a good fight, so I expect him to win this fight, and if he does, I wouldn't be surprised if he fights Teofimo Lopez at MSG next! I would rather Lopez vs. Barboza, but Bob knows if Pedraza beats Commey, he'll be a better draw with Teofimo IN NYC!
                Richard Commey was devastated was by Teofimo Lopez Jr, and beaten mercilessly by Lomachenko that's already boxing history.
                While Lopez was quicker on the draw when they both fired right hands that had knockout written all over them, Lomachenko was just the better boxer.
                We don't know how much those fights have taken out of Commey, but I do suspect that they have left lingering effects on him both physically, and psychologically.
                While Pedraza has suffered only one devastating knockout loss to Tank, he has recovered well, and dealt well with the power of other known punchers.
                He has shown himself to be a competitve force against anyone he's faced throughout his career, and that's why I believe he'll beat Commey, possibly by knockout.
                My point was that styles make fights, and in any given fight Commey could have the style to defeat certain other fighters at the top of his division, we vknow he has the power.
                That said I would love to see Pedraza versus Lopez Jr., what's more the Lopez who beat Campa doesn't beat Pedraza, and might get KO'd by someone who you say has no power.
                In closing I will tell you this, that Pedraza had Kilmov, Beltran, LesPierre, and Molina on the verge of knockout's, but just didn't go for it with the intensity that would have produced it.
                I don't know why he didn't go after those knockout's when they were in the palm of his hands/gloves, but he didn't, and as far as I seen he is more comfortable, and effective at 140 pounds.

                By the way brother Bronx2245, Lopez Jr., is scheduled to fight Barboza, on 12/10/2022, at the MSG, and that card might be bolstered by fights including Berlanga, and Zayas, facing their best opponents to date.
                Last edited by Boricua181; 08-25-2022, 03:52 PM.

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                  Originally posted by Boricua181

                  Richard Commey was devastated was by Teofimo Lopez Jr, and beaten mercilessly by Lomachenko that's already boxing history.
                  While Lopez was quicker on the draw when they both fired right hands that had knockout written all over them, Lomachenko was just the better boxer.
                  We don't know how much those fights have taken out of Commey, but I do suspect that they have left lingering effects on him both physically, and psychologically.
                  While Pedraza has suffered only one devastating knockout loss to Tank, he has recovered well, and dealt well with the power of other known punchers.
                  He has shown himself to be a competitve force against anyone he's faced throughout his career, and that's why I believe he'll beat Commey, possibly by knockout.
                  My point was that styles make fights, and in any given fight Commey could have the style to defeat certain other fighters at the top of his division, we vknow he has the power.
                  That said I would love to see Pedraza versus Lopez Jr., what's more the Lopez who beat Campa doesn't beat Pedraza, and might get KO'd by someone who you say has no power.
                  In closing I will tell you this, that Pedraza had Kilmov, Beltran, LesPierre, and Molina on the verge of knockout's, but just didn't go for it with the intensity that would have produced it.
                  I don't know why he didn't go after those knockout's when they were in the palm of his hands/gloves, but he didn't, and as far as I seen he is more comfortable, and effective at 140 pounds.

                  By the way brother Bronx2245, Lopez Jr., is scheduled to fight Barboza, on 12/10/2022, at the MSG, and that card might be bolstered by fights including Berlanga, and Zayas, facing their best opponents to date.
                  OMG! I did not see that yet! That's outstanding! Makes sense if Berlanga and Shu Shu Carrington would be on the card, since they're NYC Kids! Xander should be headlining fights in my opinion! He's more reliable than Berlanga!

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                  • Boricua181
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    OMG! I did not see that yet! That's outstanding! Makes sense if Berlanga and Shu Shu Carrington would be on the card, since they're NYC Kids! Xander should be headlining fights in my opinion! He's more reliable than Berlanga!
                    Shu Shu Carrington, just might be added to the under card along with Jahi Tucker, and Troy Isley, but those are only possibilities.
                    Berlang, and Zayas are more of a probability, because I know that their fighting in December at the MSG, but the date hasn't been specified.
                    Now that Lopez Jr., versus Barboza, has been scheduled for 12/10/2022, at the MSG that's where, and when Berlanga will return, and Zayas wants another fight before the year closes out.
                    I don't know if your aware of it but Subriel Matias versus Jeremias Ponce, has been scheduled for the vacant IBF title, on 10/15/2022.
                    It'll be part of the under card along with Caleb Plant, versus Anthony Dirrell, on the Deontay Wilder, versus Robert Helenious, main event at the Barclay Center, in Brooklyn.
                    I can't wait to see Matias fight for the title, then soon their after Berlanga, and Zayas, take a step closer to their own shot at a title towards the end of 2023.
                    Then again in Zayas' case the middle of 2024, simply because he has 6 less fights than Berlanga, since he has proven himself to be the more talented of the two.

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