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  • #11
    And I don't think it will matter if Usyk has more skills than Fury. If that's the case, Fury will just go in there and wrestle Usyk, and punch occasionally at first. Once he has worn him out, that's when he will start punching more. If Usyk thought his fights with AJ were tough, which he said at least the first one was physically very hard on him, then wait til he tries going 12 rounds with Fury. Fury easily has 20lbs on Joshua, at least. Physically bigger, taller, longer and has more wrinkles to his game. More ways to win, more stamina. Fury doesn't care about making it a dog fight if he's outpowered, and he doesn't care about making it boring either. He gives no sh/ts. He's there to win, even if he has to subtly (and sometimes obviously) violate the rulebook. Headlocks, clubbing punches to the back of the head, wrestling, Fury isn't beyond any of that.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post

      Deontay is a moron, Tyson's size is not so much the great hurdle, the obstruction lies in Tyson Fury's constant unchecked fouls that lead him to victory. Yes friends, boxing is a sport and the rules matter as does drug testing.

      Victory for Oleksandr Usyk depends on an honest official. The following refs must be banned, firstly, all BBBofC referees must be barred from this contest, with the exception of Marcus McDonnell and Phil Edwards. Then, the following American refs must also be prohibited from overseeing said bout : Jack Reiss, Tony Weeks, Russell Mora, Kenny Bayless.

      Should skill and fair play determine this contest, Oleksandr Usyk will be crowned the undisputed HW champion of the world, eliminate : rabbit-punches, palm-strikes, choke holds, wrestling, forearms, headbutts, you know that which is not boxing Tyson will lose, decisively.
      That's in a perfect world, that's not going to happen. Especially when you look at how Fury does these things, away from ref's view.

      In the last 20 years the best official display of not allowing wrestling, and basically just making sure that the two boxers were actually in a boxing match, was the very hated performance of Joe Cortez in Mayweather vs Hatton. He was just doing his job but he was doing it in a fight in which a lot of people wanted the boxer to lose, and the wrestler to win.

      In the case with Tyson Fury, I am huge fan of his and want him to win (but i'm okay with Usyk winning too), Fury has a lot of fans who want him to win, by any means necessary. Especially vs Wilder where his dirty tactics were on full display. I don't know if they want rules to be enforced on him vs Usyk but all I know is that a lot of fans did not care about his dirty style vs Wilder.

      It's going to take Joe Cortez to come out of retirement and officiate this fight if you really want to see just pure boxing. But even then, don't put it past Fury to just stink up the place like he did vs Wlad.

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      • #13
        No one knows this better than Wilder. Fury rough houses and he's huge, which make his rough house tactics even more effective.

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        • #14
          I guess Wilder is the authority on poorly conditioned athletes.

          He was in zombie mode for the last 6 rounds against Fury in the third fight, and he had no legs in the rematch because he wore a costume for the entrance.

          If anyone knows what it's like to give up, it's him.
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          • #15
            Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post




            Deontay is a moron, Tyson's size is not so much the great hurdle, the obstruction lies in Tyson Fury's constant unchecked fouls that lead him to victory. Yes friends, boxing is a sport and the rules matter as does drug testing.

            Victory for Oleksandr Usyk depends on an honest official. The following refs must be banned, firstly, all BBBofC referees must be barred from this contest, with the exception of Marcus McDonnell and Phil Edwards. Then, the following American refs must also be prohibited from overseeing said bout : Jack Reiss, Tony Weeks, Russell Mora, Kenny Bayless.

            Should skill and fair play determine this contest, Oleksandr Usyk will be crowned the undisputed HW champion of the world, eliminate : rabbit-punches, palm-strikes, choke holds, wrestling, forearms, headbutts, you know that which is not boxing Tyson will lose, decisively.
            Cry more b**ch, Fury is rent free always in that bird brain of yours. He even made you turn your back on your former hero. Never forgot you are the idiot who called him better than Joe Louis. Can't wait to see the meltdown you have when Fury is crowned king. Certified 1st ballot HOFer. It will ruin you and I can't wait to laugh my ass off.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
              Wilder hit the nail on the head. Fury is just too f'n big. He knows how to use his size well and moves amazing for the weight he carries. I'll always say, Usyk is the better boxer technically but Fury's boxing ability coupled with his size would be too much for Usyk to overcome. If Fury's fat a$$ dropped down to around the weight of Usyk, Usyk would box his ears off.
              If Fury weighed 220 he'd be the HW version of Sebastian Fundora - he'd uppercut Usyk to pieces.

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              • #17
                Wilder speaks from supreme experience. Fury burst both his and Malik Scott's ear drums, walked him down, manhandled him, shoved him to the ground, knocked him down with both body shots, & head shots, put a double ice cream scoop sized dent in his skull, beat him from bell to bell, and knocked him out cold... twice. He beat Wilder so bad, and hit him so hard, that he attacked his own trainer and accused him of poisoning his water bottle!! He made so many excuses about his loss that he because the delusional, lying, sore loser MAGA election denier of boxing!!
                Wilder also knows what it's like to have poor stamina. Hell, he just started taking up jogging like a week ago. He's so proud to finally learn what roadwork is, that he's released a video showing himself jogging. Way to go, King. Bombbb SQUUAAAD
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

                  That's in a perfect world, that's not going to happen. Especially when you look at how Fury does these things, away from ref's view.

                  In the last 20 years the best official display of not allowing wrestling, and basically just making sure that the two boxers were actually in a boxing match, was the very hated performance of Joe Cortez in Mayweather vs Hatton. He was just doing his job but he was doing it in a fight in which a lot of people wanted the boxer to lose, and the wrestler to win.

                  In the case with Tyson Fury, I am huge fan of his and want him to win (but i'm okay with Usyk winning too), Fury has a lot of fans who want him to win, by any means necessary. Especially vs Wilder where his dirty tactics were on full display. I don't know if they want rules to be enforced on him vs Usyk but all I know is that a lot of fans did not care about his dirty style vs Wilder.

                  It's going to take Joe Cortez to come out of retirement and officiate this fight if you really want to see just pure boxing. But even then, don't put it past Fury to just stink up the place like he did vs Wlad.


                  I respect your honestly, Kev, which is more than I can say for the average fan of Tyson Fury. It would seem that experts and fans alike ignore the fact that Tyson is violating the rules of boxing when they credit him for ''using his size'' -- some fans are just ignorant about the rules of prize-fighting, others are too lenient.

                  I get it, sometimes it gets dirty in there, and you might have to foul your opponent to gain some respect, especially if they initiate the fouls. But, in the case of the 'Gypsy-Bum' it's his whole style of fighting.

                  I personally would not defend boxing refs, especially overtly corrupt ones like Russell Mora ; who was in perfect view of Tyson rabbit-punching Deontay a second or two before the KO blow, or Jack Reiss that allowed Tyson to palm-strike Wilder in their first encounter all night long.

                  I am not expecting a fair fight in Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury, and I know most will call me a hater for telling it like it is, but I can not lie and betray my integrity.
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                  • #19
                    Fury will grab and beat Ukrainian dosser like stepchild.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post

                      Cry more b**ch, Fury is rent free always in that bird brain of yours. He even made you turn your back on your former hero. Never forgot you are the idiot who called him better than Joe Louis. Can't wait to see the meltdown you have when Fury is crowned king. Certified 1st ballot HOFer. It will ruin you and I can't wait to laugh my ass off.
                      All I know, Olkesandr Usyk's accomplishments won't be questioned over doping by future generations. Usyk can lose coming up a weight-class above his natural limit, so what? The true ones will say that the giant-steriod-hunchback had to cheat that little crusierweight like Steve Cunningham to get the win.

                      Its bad enough that the 'Gypsy-Bum' towers over most natural HW and still cheats, but cant take a head-up fade with a little man is pathetic.
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