Comments Thread For: Wilder Backs Tyson Fury: I Think He Will Be Too Big For Usyk

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  • boxing IQ
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    #21
    Originally posted by archiemoore1
    Wilder speaks from supreme experience. Fury burst both his and Malik Scott's ear drums, walked him down, manhandled him, shoved him to the ground, knocked him down with both body shots, & head shots, put a double ice cream scoop sized dent in his skull, beat him from bell to bell, and knocked him out cold... twice. He beat Wilder so bad, and hit him so hard, that he attacked his own trainer and accused him of poisoning his water bottle!! He made so many excuses about his loss that he because the delusional, lying, sore loser MAGA election denier of boxing!!
    Wilder also knows what it's like to have poor stamina. Hell, he just started taking up jogging like a week ago. He's so proud to finally learn what roadwork is, that he's released a video showing himself jogging. Way to go, King. Bombbb SQUUAAAD
    A guy with horse hair in his gloves, yes.

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    • Tankdestroyer
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      #22
      Originally posted by LarryX....
      To big, good movement and knows how to use his size
      Dammm, strange to read you comment or post outside a race baiting thread! What a refreshing change

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      • ELPacman
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        #23
        Originally posted by SteveM

        If Fury weighed 220 he'd be the HW version of Sebastian Fundora - he'd uppercut Usyk to pieces.
        MAYBE, maybe not. He trains as a big man and to use that big man size. I think if he had less punch resistance due to less weight, a lot of his gameplan has to change also. I'm not saying he wouldn't be as affective, he would just have to adjust his gameplan.

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        • MeanestNiceGuy
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          #24
          Originally posted by 1hourRun




          Deontay is a moron, Tyson's size is not so much the great hurdle, the obstruction lies in Tyson Fury's constant unchecked fouls that lead him to victory. Yes friends, boxing is a sport and the rules matter as does drug testing.

          Victory for Oleksandr Usyk depends on an honest official. The following refs must be banned, firstly, all BBBofC referees must be barred from this contest, with the exception of Marcus McDonnell and Phil Edwards. Then, the following American refs must also be prohibited from overseeing said bout : Jack Reiss, Tony Weeks, Russell Mora, Kenny Bayless.

          Should skill and fair play determine this contest, Oleksandr Usyk will be crowned the undisputed HW champion of the world, eliminate : rabbit-punches, palm-strikes, choke holds, wrestling, forearms, headbutts, you know that which is not boxing Tyson will lose, decisively.
          Thing is, once Fury closes the distance and uses his size, Usky's probably gonna have to implement those same tactics that you mentioned above. And I wouldn't blame him for using it.

          Fury boxes well on the outside, has great foot movement and placement, and his specialty is using his size to maul, push (your head down), smother, lean on, and finally- punch his opponent in close quarters. He does the latter when he's tired, when you're tired, or both.

          Fury's game is well-rounded and I surely hope Usyk's ready for it. Usky's gonna have to get his Money Mayweather on and box the bigger man beautifully, impose his will, and take Fury's weapons away one by one.
          Last edited by MeanestNiceGuy; 08-24-2022, 01:16 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ippo

            Yup, sometimes size just overcomes skill. Not saying fury isn't skillful, but his size and reach really helps.
            That's the thing, I never said Fury was not skillful but the second you say he's not the best heavyweight, people are losing their minds now. I simply said, he has such a size advantage over someone like Usyk that the size and the skills Fury posses, will be too much for Usyk to overcome. Not to mention, Usyk's punching power is really lacking at heavyweight as evident of all the clean power punches he landed on AJ and didn't hurt him that bad. If Wilder couldn't put away Fury, no way in hell Usyk would. Fury would probably walk right through him with that size advantage.

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            • -Kev-
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              #26
              Originally posted by 1hourRun



              I respect your honestly, Kev, which is more than I can say for the average fan of Tyson Fury. It would seem that experts and fans alike ignore the fact that Tyson is violating the rules of boxing when they credit him for ''using his size'' -- some fans are just ignorant about the rules of prize-fighting, others are too lenient.

              I get it, sometimes it gets dirty in there, and you might have to foul your opponent to gain some respect, especially if they initiate the fouls. But, in the case of the 'Gypsy-Bum' it's his whole style of fighting.

              I personally would not defend boxing refs, especially overtly corrupt ones like Russell Mora ; who was in perfect view of Tyson rabbit-punching Deontay a second or two before the KO blow, or Jack Reiss that allowed Tyson to palm-strike Wilder in their first encounter all night long.

              I am not expecting a fair fight in Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury, and I know most will call me a hater for telling it like it is, but I can not lie and betray my integrity.
              Fury is super dirty. I respect that he does what he needs to do to win and other fighters don't really have an answer for him (like be dirty right back to him). And if refs don't care, why should the big guy stop? I don't agree with it, but if the refs don't enforce anything on him and even defend him and his dirty tactics when pressed about it, the guy is not gonna stop.

              The first time I saw Fury being blatantly dirty was vs Cunningham, and that foul actually helped him secure the win right in that instance. He now has gotten a little more subtle with his fouls but they are clearly still there.

              If Usyk thinks he's just going to box Fury's ears off in a clean fight like AJ, he is sorely mistaken and should immediately scrap whatever gameplan he has. He needs a gameplan specifically to beat a gigantic, dirty, strong and adaptive fighter. He needs to look at Fury vs Wlad, he needs to look at Fury vs Wilder, Whyte, Cunningham, Fury vs everyone, and train for all of those Fury's. He can't train for one Fury. And he can't train for the Fury vs Wallin either, or train to knock down Fury like Cunningham and Wilder did.

              Usyk needs an answer for a dirty Fury who will not be reprimanded by officials and will pull dirty tactics all night right in front of the ref. But he also needs to be aware of the Fury that fought Wlad, who wasn't dirty but basically used his size not to wrestle but to box Wlad and make it a boring fight.

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                #27
                He's right. Fury is on the Hopkins, Ward level of dirty. Ward even encouraged it when commentating the Wilder 3 fight. But if he can get away with it and win, why would he stop? I think how the fight is reffed would determine the outcome.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

                  Thing is, once Fury closes the distance and uses his size, Usky's probably gonna have to implement those same tactics that you mentioned above. And I wouldn't blame him for using it.

                  Fury boxes well on the outside, has great foot movement and placement, and his specialty is using his size to maul, push (your head down), smother, lean on, and finally- punch his opponent in close quarters. He does the latter when he's tired, when you're tired, or both.

                  Fury's game is well-rounded and I surely hope Usyk's ready for it. Usky's gonna have to get his Money Mayweather on and box the bigger man beautifully, impose his will, and take Fury's weapons away one by one.


                  Like Kev mentioned in his reference to Floyd Mayweather vs. Ricky Hatton with Joe Cortez, all those dirty tactics that Tyson employs are useless with the right ref. What better example than Steve Cunningham to stress how the performance of the appointed official determines how effective Tyson can be with his illegal tactics?

                  The NYSAC, should have overturned the outcome of Cunningham vs. Fury when Cunningham petitioned them.

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                  • MrShakeAndBake
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Grandma Pleaser
                    Of course wilder would side with his daddy. Like a good boy should.
                    If he would say Usyk beats Fury, that automatically means Usyk would of beaten Wilder ... He doesn't want to say that lol

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                    • Daniel H W Boon
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun




                      Deontay is a moron, Tyson's size is not so much the great hurdle, the obstruction lies in Tyson Fury's constant unchecked fouls that lead him to victory. Yes friends, boxing is a sport and the rules matter as does drug testing.

                      Victory for Oleksandr Usyk depends on an honest official. The following refs must be banned, firstly, all BBBofC referees must be barred from this contest, with the exception of Marcus McDonnell and Phil Edwards. Then, the following American refs must also be prohibited from overseeing said bout : Jack Reiss, Tony Weeks, Russell Mora, Kenny Bayless.

                      Should skill and fair play determine this contest, Oleksandr Usyk will be crowned the undisputed HW champion of the world, eliminate : rabbit-punches, palm-strikes, choke holds, wrestling, forearms, headbutts, you know that which is not boxing Tyson will lose, decisively.
                      I’ve been waiting for someone to point this out. Thank you.

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