How many rounds do you think Floyd could take off Bernard Hopkins?

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good post dap



i still think pac beats mayweather regardless...

who cares what you think b.itch..you said marquez would win. Pacquiao isn't even a good boxer and can't beat kendall holt or zab judah

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Cuz' what JMM did was the equivalent of Floyd moving up to MW and fighting a Hopkins or a Pavlik type guy.

I didn't think before the fight that the weight was a huge deal because they looked relatively similar in size but upon seeing them in the ring it was obvious that Floyd had at least 20 pounds on an already blown up JMM.

Not only this but Floyd didn't even try to make weight.

Its a testament to JMM that he was able to hang and go 12 w/ someone so much bigger than him. Its clear he lost all his speed, reflexes and will in going up so high, but thats also what makes me respect him so much more as a man.

The willingness to challenge himself that way.

All things being equal, if JMM and Floyd fought naturally at 26' or 30', I think JMM would win because he is the better fighter.

But Mangler was right all along, this fight was a ***ing joke, a kamikaze mission for JMM that he was destined to lose.

I was weary when HBO first cut to JMM arriving and the shots of him in his locker room. The look on his face told the story, he looked like he was already defeated from the beginning. I've never seen him look so pale, so down and so stressed before a fight.

In fact, I don't believe JMM even wanted this fight, I think Golden Boy asked him to call out Floyd in the post fight interview with Diaz because it was Golden Boys idea to co-promote Floyds return all along, which in a way makes GB *******s for being willing to offer JMM as a sacrifice to Floyd as a comeback opponent.

Anyway, I'm pretty bummed about the outcome but I'm also extremely proud of JMM for aspiring to such great fights and for going out there and giving it his all against a much, much, bigger guy while giving away every possible advantage.

He showed grit and toughness and he proved all the moron Floyd fans that he was no Gatti.

JMM is a ***ing beast.

And even though he lost the fight, he will always be a better man than Floyd could ever be in every way.

Some side thoughts.

I thought the way Kellerman owned Floyd at the end was great. Nice to teach the little punk who's boss. HBO owns you Floyd, so you better watch yourself.

And it was beautiful to watch Floyd shrink like a **** in ice water when a man his own size went up to punk him.

Floyd lost all composure and panicked. I became a Mosley fan again last night.

As for Pac/Floyd, if I was a hardcore Pac fan, I wouldn't want any part of that fight. Floyd is simply too big for JMM and Pac and given Pac's more confrontational and violent style, I think Floyd just knocks him out similar to Hatton.

No way Pac can outbox Floyd.

What did you guys think of the whole thing?

I don't think that Floyd would last more than 4 rds against BHop, if it had jumped off last night Floyd would have been rocked. They are gonna press him every chance they can now till he caves in and fights Mosley.

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I honestly believes he tames Pac much easier than he tamed Marquez last night.

nah... pac has fought above 135 lbs 2x already.

Manny's defense is nowhere near as crisp as Juan Manuel's and yet Floyd was still able to land at will on Marquez from the opening bell to the closing one.

nah... the weight ****ed up jmm's speed and reflexes and didn't give him any power. pac's retained his speed, reflexes and power. but if floyd has a 10+ lbs weight advantage on pac, pbf will win. I don't even think pac will beat cotto.

I'd rather see Floyd figh Mosley because last night he looked like he'd seen a ghost when Shane stepped to him.

yep, floyd/mosley is the best fight to make at WW

Floyd basically fought a smaller less skilled version of himself last night...

nah... jmm ain't a smaller version of floyd.

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im a PAC fan and i want that fight...show you how its done....your boy ate his way to welter and he did it for a paycheck...if he didn't he woulda told floyd to go **** himself when he weighed 46...

he was outclassed by a bigger man...he carried NONE of his speed or power...he's a conventional, textbook fighter who ran into a bigger, better version of himself last night


i want a PAC-PBF fight because i want to see him handle the violence...if he tames PAC, then his claims to greatness get validated in my book.

I honestly believes he tames Pac much easier than he tamed Marquez last night.

Manny's defense is nowhere near as crisp as Juan Manuel's and yet Floyd was still able to land at will on Marquez from the opening bell to the closing one.

I'd rather see Floyd figh Mosley because last night he looked like he'd seen a ghost when Shane stepped to him.

Anyway, Dap ; good posts. I missed the post fight with Marquez ; could you fill me in on what he said in the interview?

I was too busy picking my heart up off the floor.......

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I honestly believes he tames Pac much easier than he tamed Marquez last night.

Manny's defense is nowhere near as crisp as Juan Manuel's and yet Floyd was still able to land at will on Marquez from the opening bell to the closing one.

I'd rather see Floyd figh Mosley because last night he looked like he'd seen a ghost when Shane stepped to him.

Anyway, Dap ; good posts. I missed the post fight with Marquez ; could you fill me in on what he said in the interview?

I was too busy picking my heart up off the floor.......

Nah mayne...Roach won't let that happen. Pac is a southpaw, carries the heavier weight better, and like Marquez never gives in, and he's much more explosive...Floyd would deff win IMO but it won't be like last night...

Floyd basically fought a smaller less skilled version of himself last night...