My notes on last night's card

[Toney Loc]

Excellent post, Bringer. Always refreshing to read your posts in a forum full of nuthugging, kids.

[ßringer]

Im not saying the added weight didnt effect Marquez it definitely did.

My point was, it also had to do with the skilled fighter across the ring Marquez was fighting.

Which it did in the Pavlik/Hopkins fight, also.

Regardless of the weights Pavlik and Marquez would still lose to Hopkins and Floyd no matter the weight due to the disparity in skill.

[THE REED]

Which it did in the Pavlik/Hopkins fight, also.

Regardless of the weights Pavlik and Marquez would still lose to Hopkins and Floyd no matter the weight due to the disparity in skill.

Which is exactly my point... of course the weight effected Marquez's performance... but the outcome would be the same at any weight imo.

I think Marquez struggles to get his punches off on Floyd regardless, just because of his style.