AJ fought Uysk better in the first than the rematch

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  • WillieWild114
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    #1

    AJ fought Uysk better in the first than the rematch

    If you look at the punch stats AJ only won three rounds in the rematch but won 5 in the first fight.
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    #2
    I thought they were very similar. Joshua doesn’t have the ring IQ, technical ability and punch output to be competitive with Usyk.

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      #3
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      I thought they were very similar. Joshua doesn’t have the ring IQ, technical ability and punch output to be competitive with Usyk.
      The rematch was competitive ‘once again you’re talking out of your behind’

      After 9 rounds the fight was ‘more or less even’ with Usyks exceptional work rate allowing him to take advantage of AJ slowing down.

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        #4
        And still lost. Who cares? Maybe if they fight 2-3 more times, AJ can finally steal a win from Usyk

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          The second fight was exactly the same pattern as the first.

          Joshua had a little more aggressive intent, and probably hurt Usyk more than the first fight.

          But Usyk won more rounds this time around, but did not actually hurt Joshua as much as the first fight.

          Joshua's endurance was slightly better, and his composure when under attack improved.

          Joshua performed better in this rematch, in terms of aggression and overall damage. The body punching and round 9 etc.

          Anthony Joshua was starting to get beat up in the first fight, this time around he was not beaten up.

          Out of the two fighters, Anthony Joshua hurt Usyk more in this rematch.
          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-23-2022, 06:46 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by WillieWild114
            If you look at the punch stats AJ only won three rounds in the rematch but won 5 in the first fight.
            His body shots were far more damaging than his pawing jabs in the first.

            Punch stats are a guide, but they're not everything. I'm not convinced by Compubox's accuracy either.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

              The rematch was competitive ‘once again you’re talking out of your behind’

              After 9 rounds the fight was ‘more or less even’ with Usyks exceptional work rate allowing him to take advantage of AJ slowing down.
              No you’re a delusional AJ fan who’s blinded by your fanboyism.

              After 9 rounds I had it 7-2 Usyk. What rounds did you give to AJ to have it “more or less even”. I gave him the 2nd and the 9th. The only other round you could maybe give him was the 1st.

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                Originally posted by Toffee

                His body shots were far more damaging than his pawing jabs in the first.

                Punch stats are a guide, but they're not everything. I'm not convinced by Compubox's accuracy either.
                Usyk was winning a good amount of rounds, but the rounds were close and? 95% of his punches are merely scoring punches, they touch the target 'They do not crash through the target and inflict heavy damage'.

                Joshua hurt Usyk more in the rematch. Usyk I think scored a points wise more dominant win, but he did not beat Joshua up or inflict much damage.

                Joshua's fatigue and lack of elite level endurance makes things look more dramatic. Joshua's endurance is not super bad, it is just not elite level 'His worst attributes are his lack of Jab, No inside game, and endurance'.

                Interesting, because I can remember Tony Bellew stating that? David Price was a extremely hard trainer. This was at the beginning of their careers. Still Price's endurance was terrible.

                In knowing that Joshua is very obsessive, and analytically. I think not only does he need to psychotically improve his Jab, he has to somehow improve his endurance. It has nothing to do with his weight, because he was 244 pounds this time around and? His endurance was better. And like I stated in post leading up to this fight, even at 250 pounds Joshua has displayed greater endurance and durability than when he was weighing in at 240 pounds and under.

                I think Joshua needs to look into some real track sprint training with proper coaches, and also rowing. The demands of rowing on specific energy systems, especially lactate threshold is very intense. Going on little jogs here and there, and doing some circuit with a personal trainer is not good enough.

                I don't particular think the fight was high intensity, these fighters in the heavyweight division these days seem to be the worst condition ever. In the 90's I cannot recall so many heavyweights at elite level, with under par endurance.

                I don't even think Usyk or Fury's endurance is that great. It would of just been standard in past era's.

                Fury's endurance is completely overrated.

                I will state this right now? If Usyk beats Tyson Fury, it will be because Fury fatigues.

                Otherwise I still do make Tyson Fury the favorite of that fight.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-23-2022, 07:57 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                  Usyk was winning a good amount of rounds, but the rounds were close and? 95% of his punches are merely scoring punches, they touch the target 'They do not crash through the target and inflict heavy damage'.
                  He's constantly throwing punches, but a lot aren't designed to damage. I think most of the time he's just working his openings. He touches gloves, he waves the jab, then suddenly he comes through. The punches thrown stat for Usyk completely overestimates how many punches he actually throws. Half of them aren't intended to to do anything but be waved at the opponent to see how he moves.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    No you’re a delusional AJ fan who’s blinded by your fanboyism.

                    After 9 rounds I had it 7-2 Usyk. What rounds did you give to AJ to have it “more or less even”. I gave him the 2nd and the 9th. The only other round you could maybe give him was the 1st.
                    I’m not an AJ fan in that ‘I don’t think much of his skills or natural ability’

                    I’ve always felt like he fights like it’s the first time he’s put a pair of gloves on.

                    Fury is infinitely superior as a ‘boxer’

                    I had AJ winning 4 rounds out of the first 9. That was what most ringside had it and many ‘boxing experts’

                    75% of the fight was ‘highly competitive’

                    The last 3 rounds Usyk took control due to his phenomenal engine and relentlessness.

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