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  • #51
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    When you look at this division from a different perspective.

    Usyk, Fury, Wilder are all regressing with their game.

    Anthony Joshua definitely after watching the weekends fight, is the only fighter out of the top fighters who is still learning and adding to his game 'At-least from a technical perspective'.

    But this is also down to Usyk & Fury already being better fighters than Joshua as all round fighters etc.

    Tyson Fury can pretty much fight in all areas, he is not super elite in all area's but? He has a Jab, has inside game, and can fight from mid-long range.

    Usyk has pretty much everything accept a inside game, or maybe he has just not been forced to show his inside game as of yet.

    I am still of the opinion, that the upper limits of Usyk's abilities is unknown.

    There is no reason why Joshua cannot improve his Jab. My ratings on the best Jab's in the division before the weekend were: Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Whyte, then Joshua.

    But after the weekend, Joshua has dropped out of the Top-5 for sure. Fury, Wilder, Joyce, Usyk, Whyte.

    There are probably more heavyweights other than the ones I have mentioned with a better Jab than Joshua, I was astonished how under par it was.

    If David Price was still active in the division, I would rate his Jab above Joshua's.

    If Joshua fights Usyk for the 3rd time, he is probably going to do even better. I thought coming into this rematch, that Usyk was showing shades of Fury vs Wilder II? I thought he saw something in that last round vs Joshua in the first fight 'But that was not the case'. Usyk did not pick up where he left off in the 1st fight, he did not hurt Joshua.

    I think Usyk has to beat these guys in the heavyweight division, then get out of the game. Because these guys, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and the rest of them? I think they are going to figure him out. And the reason why I say this, is the element of danger when you face Usyk.

    The man, I rate the man. I rate him as a different, I think he is a really top fighter. But the fact of the matter is, David Haye had power to change things in a instant, Evander Holyfield was extremely strong physically and had a violent inside game.

    Usyk I have not seen this type of danger from him, and I think in the Heavyweight division that is what you need 'Especially when you are a classically styled Heavyweight coming up and fighting these super heavyweights'.

    You have Whyte & Joyce over AJ?
    AJ outta the Top 5 after the Loss?
    You gotta be crazzzy
    Lolololol

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    • #52
      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

      Why in gods name is Whyte still in your top 5? He's been KTFO in 2 of his last 3 fights, and has never seen an uppercut that he didn't put his ****ing face in front of instinctively.


      But yeah. Usyk has regressed and Joshua has improved. Maybe if Joshua fights him 5 more times, he'll win. As long as he doesn't have a nervous breakdown first.
      Do you know what that top-5 represents?

      That top-5 represents 'Heavyweight Jab's'.

      Dillian Whyte still has a good Jab, regardless of whether he was ****** out by Fury.

      The ratings are not representing the fighters overall. Otherwise, Joshua is above Whyte.

      Best Heavyweight Jabs.

      1: Tyson Fury. 2: Deontay Wilder. 3: Joe Joyce. 4: Usyk. 5: Dillian Whyte.

      There may be two to three other heavyweights outside the top-5 with better Jabs than Joshua. His performance with his Jab on the weekend, has dropped him down the ratings big time etc. I think Joshua's lack of Jab, was the most influential variable as to why the rematch was lost 'If he had a strong Jab, and could at-least really compete with Usyk in this area? The entire dynamic of the fight changes.

      greeneye99
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-26-2022, 06:37 PM.

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