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  • _Rexy_
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    #21
    Originally posted by LAchargers373
    Usyk is cool. He gets too much credit for beat AJ tho. Dude was living off a win over an ancient klitscko. Usyk won’t fight anyone but fury cause he’ll lose to Joyce Dubois and maybe even wilder
    Usyk is far better than he was when he shut out Joyce in the WBSS. Did Joyce discover speed suddenly?

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    • jonnyc420
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      #22
      100% fight was great, Joshua unloaded in the 9th. So close to victory. Then the 10th started and Usyk responded. It was high drama stuff and those kinds of fights are not easily forgotten.

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      • Poeticman7
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        #23
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg

        He clearly is nowhere near as good as his ultranationalist fan base trumpeted him as. Being Nigerian or born in England doesn’t make one as good as Muhammad Ali and there were actually fans claiming he would attain all time great status. One of the top 5 of this era clearly but this is not a gold standard era of heavyweight boxing. Entertaining yes, but do we think Usyk would grace beaten Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, etc? Even secondary champs and contenders like Moorer, Mercer, Morrison, Tua, Ibeabuchi, an in shape Bowe, old Holmes and Foreman would have been too much for almost anyone today. Only Fury could have competed with those guys and I would love to see a good debate on just how fury would have coped in the 90s. He is the one guy around today who’s size matches his skill.
        Joshua has more than just Klit on his resume.
        He faced an undefeated Dominic Breazeale.
        He faced an undefeated Dillian Whyte.
        He faced Povetkin before his body fell apart.
        He faced an undefeated Joseph Parker.
        He faced an undefeated Charles Martin.
        Championship reigns are more than just highlights.
        You have to face the rest of the crop to become the creme.
        Wilder & Fury faced each other,
        but hardly anybody else in the top 10.
        Joshua faced several actual top 10 fighters.
        This is a good victory and a classic fight.
        No one's comparing these guys to Ali,
        but this is a great moment for the sport all on its own.

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        • landotter
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          #24
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          They are extremely aggressive, and also quite durable.

          Dubois will have no problem, just throwing caution to the wind vs Usyk.

          Usyk will probably win, but they will be tough fights.

          Usyk has blown nobody away at heavyweight. He beat Joshua, but he did not blast through him.

          Or inflict a 12 round beat down.

          Usyk will beat those guys, but it will be tough.
          That is ll fair. Usyk is not a true HW. Dubois and Joyce are. Usyk should win against them as their weaknesses play into his strengths, but they could end him with a single power punch, something Usyk cannot do to any HW.

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          • MrShakeAndBake
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            #25
            Originally posted by LAchargers373
            Usyk is cool. He gets too much credit for beat AJ tho. Dude was living off a win over an ancient klitscko. Usyk won’t fight anyone but fury cause he’ll lose to Joyce Dubois and maybe even wilder
            ahaha Wilder ahahah Usyk would run circles around wilder, at least AJ is an olympic gold medalist , you got jokes lol
            and he already beat Joyce before, do your homework...
            Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 08-22-2022, 05:30 PM.

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            • MoneyKasha
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              #26
              Originally posted by LAchargers373
              Usyk is cool. He gets too much credit for beat AJ tho. Dude was living off a win over an ancient klitscko. Usyk won’t fight anyone but fury cause he’ll lose to Joyce Dubois and maybe even wilder
              LMFAO ok.....

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #27
                That 10th round was really impressive.

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                • Mikhnienko
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                  #28
                  Just wanted to compliment the author on the quality of the writing.

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                  • PRINCEKOOL
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by landotter

                    That is ll fair. Usyk is not a true HW. Dubois and Joyce are. Usyk should win against them as their weaknesses play into his strengths, but they could end him with a single power punch, something Usyk cannot do to any HW.
                    I disagree, Usyk is a heavyweight. Not a giant, but he is definitely a Heavyweight.

                    Dubois and Joyce are super Heavyweights.

                    What I am saying is? I still don't think Usyk cannot cope or will he be highly bothered by a Super Heavyweight 'Who has a consistent violent pressurizing offense'.

                    David Haye had elite level power to back fighters off. Usyk for all of his skills, does not have equalizing power. I am adamant that he only beat Chisora, because Chisora fatigued.

                    Well if you watch the fight, you can clearly see when Usyk started to win the rounds. And that was when Chisora fatigued, and allowed Usyk to create distance & time to box. In that fight, Usyk did not figure out Chisora or overcome his offense. He just merely out lasted Chisora, and exploited his fatigue 'With his own endurance, which is good'.

                    Evander Holyfield did not have equalizing power, but his offense and inside fighting was super elite 'And he did hit with more power than Usyk'.

                    I rate Usyk, I rate him as a fighter in today's era. But notice how he is blasting out nobody in the heavyweight division. And even if he is not blasting guys out, you would then expect him to inflict brutal beat downs over 12 rounds.

                    Usyk has blasted no heavyweight out, and has beat down none at elite level. He beat Anthony Joshua twice, but really? Joshua took more punishment and damage from Kiltschko.

                    I think Derek Chisora should be aiming to fight Usyk again, if Usyk gets past Fury 'Then I think Chisora should definitely have another go at him'.
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-22-2022, 04:57 PM.

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                    • greeneye99
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Poeticman7

                      Joshua has more than just Klit on his resume.
                      He faced an undefeated Dominic Breazeale.
                      He faced an undefeated Dillian Whyte.
                      He faced Povetkin before his body fell apart.
                      He faced an undefeated Joseph Parker.
                      He faced an undefeated Charles Martin.
                      Championship reigns are more than just highlights.
                      You have to face the rest of the crop to become the creme.
                      Wilder & Fury faced each other,
                      but hardly anybody else in the top 10.
                      Joshua faced several actual top 10 fighters.
                      This is a good victory and a classic fight.
                      No one's comparing these guys to Ali,
                      but this is a great moment for the sport all on its own.
                      Bro
                      You're wasting your time explaining Facts to this Oldskoolg guy
                      He just Hates AJ & everything Matchroom
                      Facts!

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