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  • Dakuwaqa
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    #11
    Originally posted by M312

    Fair play, didn't realise you were an actual internet tough guy. I take back what I said.
    Word

    I’m a fragile 6’4 lank with bad hips in real life

    But on here I would whoop anyone !

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #12
      Good observation.

      Usyk is solid and world class fighter in all areas, all accept his inside game.

      He had no answer for Derek Chisora's pressure, all he could do was survive ride it out.

      Then wait for Chisora to fatigue, create distance then go to work form mid-long range. If Chisora did not fatigue, he would of won that fight.

      But? Anthony Joshua also has a very limited inside game. His strongest fighting range is mid-range.

      That is why today I have stated, that if Joshua can win the battle of the jabs and dominate from long range.

      It completely changes the dynamic of the fight. Because at Mid-Range, which is the danger zone for Usyk. Joshua can more than compete.

      The first fight was a fight primarily fought at long range, and bursts of mid-range action. Joshua astonishingly was out boxed by Usyk at long range, can you honestly see Usyk doing that to Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko or Tyson Fury? Joshua was out boxed from long range, because even as a Super Heavyweight he struggles to fight a good solid big man styled fight.

      A mid-range in the first fight, both fighters were a lot closer in competition. Usyk is no Evander Holyfield, in the sense that? He does not have a elite level inside game.

      If Evander Holyfield was being out boxed at long to mid-range, he would then take it to the inside game. That is what he did against Rid**** Bowe in the second fight, he was near enough level from Long to mid-range, but then excelled at close range 'So he won the fight'.

      I don't think Usyk has the same range of attack, he is a top world class fighter at mid-long range.

      If Joshua can improve his long range game, fight a big man styled fight. It will force Usyk to then fight more at mid-range, and this is where both fighters are very close in ability.

      Joshua himself does not have a good inside game, but hopefully Garcia has taught him how to tie a fighter up on the inside. Joshua has the attributes to wrestle fighters, in terms of brute strength 'Joshua in my opinion is stronger than Tyson Fury'. It is just that it seems like he has no idea technically how to clinch, and wrestle etc.

      Usyk is a unprecedented talent, this will be the greatest heavyweight win of the past 20 years if Joshua can win 'Due to Uysk's achievements, and the fact that he is at the peak of his powers'.

      But tactically, for any great Super Heavyweight? This is a straight forward fight. Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko, Tyson Fury, they would all know what type of fight to fight 'The classical big man styled fight'.

      Joshua showed one dimension to a big man styled fight vs Ruiz Junior II. But there are two other dimensions, which he has never really shown the ability to execute inside the ring.

      Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson, although Tyson was not in the best of condition and was drugged up. That fight is one of the best examples of a classical big man styled fight, and it is a extremely aggressive big man styled fight 'Ideally, that is the type of fight Joshua needs to fight'.


      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-20-2022, 08:35 AM.

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      • Dakuwaqa
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        #13
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Good observation.

        Usyk is solid and world class fighter in all areas, all accept his inside game.

        He had no answer for Derek Chisora's pressure, all he could do was survive ride it out.

        Then wait for Chisora to fatigue, create distance then go to work form mid-long range. If Chisora did not fatigue, he would of won that fight.

        But? Anthony Joshua also has a very limited inside game. His strongest fighting range is mid-range.

        That is why today I have stated, that if Joshua can win the battle of the jabs and dominate from long range.

        It completely changes the dynamic of the fight. Because at Mid-Range, which is the danger zone for Usyk. Joshua can more than compete.

        The first fight was a fight primarily fought at long range, and bursts of mid-range action. Joshua astonishingly was out boxed by Usyk at long range, can you honestly see Usyk doing that to Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Kiltschko or Tyson Fury? Joshua was out boxed from long range, because even as a Super Heavyweight he struggles to fight a good solid big man styled fight.

        A mid-range in the first fight, both fighters were a lot closer in competition. Usyk is no Evander Holyfield, in the sense that? He does not have a elite level inside game.

        If Evander Holyfield was being out boxed at long to mid-range, he would then take it to the inside game. That is what he did against Rid**** Bowe in the second fight, he was near enough level from Long to mid-range, but then excelled at close range 'So he won the fight'.

        I don't think Usyk has the same range of attack, he is a top world class fighter at mid-long range.

        If Joshua can improve his long range game, fight a big man styled fight. It will force Usyk to then fight more at mid-range, and this is where both fighters are very close in ability.

        Joshua himself does not have a good inside game, but hopefully Garcia has taught him how to tie a fighter up on the inside. Joshua has the attributes to wrestle fighters, in terms of brute strength 'Joshua in my opinion is stronger than Tyson Fury'. It is just that it seems like he has no idea technically how to clinch, and wrestle etc.
        Agreed.

        Usyk wouldn’t have been able to get past WK jab. I do think Wlad, Fury and Lennox are naturally bigger men that AJ. That helps.

        AJs long punches aren’t great. He still telegraphs his right hand and loops it back if he misses leaving himself open to the counter.

        His jab isn’t educated and he’s not going to be able to do much from the outside imo.

        I think AJ has two options. Fight at distance and focus on fast right hand counters and long left hoops when Usyk turns to his right. Focus on speed rather than loading up.

        Keeping his hands up and walking Usyk down and throwing hard combos.

        If he’s tentative and tries fighting jab for jab he’ll get lit up with lefts to the head and body.

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          #14
          Originally posted by M312

          Like he did Wallin?
          Wallin isn’t a midget. Different strategy.

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          • M312
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            #15
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

            Wallin isn’t a midget. Different strategy.
            Oh riiiight. So Wallin is tougher then?

            Fanboys lol

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            • MONGOOSE66
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              #16
              Originally posted by M312

              Oh riiiight. So Wallin is tougher then?

              Fanboys lol
              Nope,
              just not a MIDGET.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                Was watching the Chisora fight and he didn’t have much of a clue what to do. Content on holding while Chisora was roughing him up.

                Fury would fight an inside fight and beat him easily

                Usyk is very beatable at HW. It’s just a boxer puncher isn’t the style to do it
                If fury thought he could beat him easily he would have fought him already instead of making excuses and trying to fight whyte for a third time.

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