Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce: Joshua Must Be an Offensive Fighter To Beat Usyk

[P to the J]

A black mamba doesn't have a glass jaw. It's hard to to cut off the ring on someone, when they can force their way through. AJ is frail and I think his time on top is over.

What AJ has isn’t a glass jaw, but non-existent head movement and poor foot placement; both of which ensure he takes a shot flush.

By way of contrast, I can’t remember Fury taking too many full on apart from when he’s had his feet caught under him. Most of the time, he effects slight head movements to take the sting off shots.

[P to the J]

PJ dropping true knowledge. Robert Garcia is teaching Anthony Joshua how to take an afternoon siesta, with all this talk about going to war with the man that just came back from a real war, IM SAYING!

Haha, right on, brother. That siesta might come in handy cos it gets pretty hot out in Saudi

[1hourRun]

Haha, right on, brother. That siesta might come in handy cos it gets pretty hot out in Saudi

Robert Garcia has A.J drinking Tequila and Mezcal with 'Bam-Bam' Rios and Antonio Margarito to help Joshua stay on his feet when Joshua's head starts spinning; Aye-yayaya!

[Lupara]

SO he's basically parroting what everyone ls has been saying?

Cool

[Cyborg Fangerloo]

Joe joyce ne battrait jamais usik trop lent et trop prévisible il a un bon menton et un bon moteur mais usik a un meilleur moteur meme joshua a battu joyce en 1 rounds ko en amateur le seul qui peut battre usik en poids lourd est frank sanchez ou joshua bizzard a dire mais ce n'est pas les boxeur les plus populaire les meilleur au monde ils sont cacher dans l'ombre de la boxe....!

I was totally telling that same thing to my mom the other day. Especially the l’ombré stuff.

[PrimadonnaKool]

Joshua has zero chance, zero

A win is literally impossible.

[Heru]

The first fight was a fast paced fight and Usyk is an elite fast pace fighter, while Joshua is not. Joshua upping the pace on Usyk plays into OU’s hands and forces him to need an early knock out before his stamina wanes. It’d be Joyce’s best strategy because he has a great motor and would be dominated by Usyk otherwise, but it’s not AJ’s strength.

AJ has to do the opposite of Joyce and slow the pace down. Control center ring, counterpunch, and mix in body work to make Usyk gunshy and steadily deplete his stamina, similar to the Lopez-Lomachenko gameplan (except Teofimo didn’t work the body). Teofimo’s control and counters had Vasily gunshy to fight at his preferred pace; and by the time Loma felt comfortable enough to up the pace, he’d already lost two thirds of the fight.

That is what Joshua has do to pull off the win.

[Good ol' Douglas]

I can't believe people are saying the only way to beat Usyk is to be offensive and bully him. I guess they haven't seen any of his fights. Usyks strengths are his engine and his ability to adapt and slip and counter. Being more offensive means you're getting picked apart quicker. I watched the first fight again last night. I just don't see a way Joshua can win this fight.

From what I recall, the fighters who enjoyed the most success against Usyk caught his timing and were counterpunching him as he pressed the fight.

So Hunter and Bellew early on, Breidis and AJ in the middle rounds.

The problem is that the cruiserweights did not have the strength to collapse the pocket and slow the pace of the fight. But AJ has never been a dirty or particularly physical boxer.

Also, someone like Fury will have the reach, educated lead hand and footwork to keep Usyk out of range and force him to reset constantly.

[gooderz84]

I would suggest to anyone that they should head to YouTube and watch how the Mongoose deals with the Black Mamba in combat if they want a perfect allegory of the first fight between Usyk and AJ.

The whole reason the Mamba can’t just “pressure” the mongoose, like everyone believes AJ can Usyk, is the Mongoose’s reaction times are superior, and it possesses speed of foot and utilizas heavy lateral movement. Whenever the Mamba tries to lunge, the Mongoose is already on the opposite side of the snake.

AJ realised this in round 1: by the time that jab was out, he was outmanoeuvred and peppered from all angles. Pressure won’t work.

Mongoose is ducking Bobcat though

[P to the J]

Mongoose is ducking Bobcat though

Lol, now you mention it, I spend enough time on boxing scene to have recognised that even animals that kill to survive are fair game for posters saying this **** unironically, and it won’t be long before someone comes in calling it a “duckgoose” or a “monfraud” or some ****.