Comments Thread For: Thurman on Danny Garcia: What He Did At 140, What I Did At 147, We're Hall of Fame Fighters

[kingstip9]

I agree. I think I get a little sensitive about some of the Thurman talk, as we have been friends for many years, but I understand your position at the same time.

Good man.
wish there were more like you

[famicommander]

Even if you combined the resumes of the two, they don't come anywhere near close to being there. Hell, you could add Crawford and Spence's resumes too and it still falls clearly short off the mark.

What a preposterous discussion.

You're a clown. You're saying the combined resumes of Spence, Crawford, Garcia, and Thurman wouldn't be HOF worthy?

I'm far too lazy to look up their ranked opponents so I'll take the easy way out and list wins they have combined over big 4 world titlists:
Chris Algieri
Kell Brook (twice)
Lamont Peterson (twice)
Mikey Garcia
Shawn Porter (three times)
Danny Garcia (twice)
Yordenis Ugas
Ricky Burns
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Ray Beltran
Viktor Postol
Julius Indongo
Jeff Horn
Amir Khan (twice)
Nate Cambell
Kendall Holt
Erik Morales (twice)
Zab Judah
Paulie Malinaggi
Robert Guerrero (twice)
Jan Zaveck
Julio Diaz
Luis Collazo

Those are all full world titlists, not Regular, Interim, IBO, Gold, Silver, Diamnond, etc. Just the top titles of the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, or lineal.

Combined titles won
135: WBO, Ring Magazine, Lineal
140: WBA (twice), WBC (twice), WBO, IBF, Ring Magazine (twice), Lineal (twice)
147: WBA (twice), WBC (three times), WBO, IBF

Total title defenses: 28

[NC Uppercut]

Good man.
wish there were more like you

Appreciate you King!

[NC Uppercut]

I'm not saying the win is old I'm talking about the people and where they were in their careers when the fight happened. Idiot

Instead of pleasing Grandmothers, you need to learn to show some respect on the forums. What do you gain by calling another person an idiot? You sound like you have Napoleon Syndrome, Google it, or you are some random guy in your mothers basement bc you’ve never been anywhere to learn the ways of life. What a shame.

[Silence]

Then Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia are HOF too.

[Bronx2245]

Thurman was getting walked down by a 135 who got stopped at 140. People are sleeping on Lubin. He beats the breaks off of Danny or Thurman. Thurman and Spence were dabbling around 152 when Andrade was there. When he called their names, they went back to the 147 safe zone. Thurman will fight Ugas or Sadam Ali at 154 or PBC will find a 140 they can bring up 2 classes. Maybe he fights Broner.

I think he fights DSG @ 154, or worse, at a catchweight!

[Ricospider]

Thurman and Garcia don't have any value or leverage now. They are both faded former semi attractions who never got the monster payday fight. Thurman deserved to get Floyd but Haymon and Floyd wouldn't do it. When Thurman was hot he would have KOed Floyd but that was not the business plan Haymon wanted. Haymon knew Floyd was never allowed to lose. SO Thurman lost that big KO win vs Floyd. Garcia was always a good B side type. Hopefully these guys will get one last good payday.

It's kind of a shame Thurman never got the BIG fight, just like Paul Williams was always cheated out of the Floyd fight and just used a Haymon pawn. Williams would have slaughtered floyd at 147. SLAW TERD.

[ELPacman]

Those two are very interesting regarding HOF. I feel like neither guy really should be. Just because you win a belt doesn't mean you're HOF worthy. I think it has to be based on what you brought to boxing beyond just wins. Sure, wins and who they are against matter but the degree of the person you beat matters as well. Perhaps multiple wins against other HOF fighters. Then, the type of talent you were overall.

Example, nobody would say Arturo Gatti had a great resume of wins but the few he got and the losses he took against HOFers combined with the excitement he brought in the ring qualified him for HOF. HOF should be someone you don't want to forget because of what they did, not necessarily related to how good they were.

[JakeTheBoxer]

This is probably true.

People sh.it on Thurman too much. On the other hand, they say Spence is great, lol.

Thurman beat Porter and Danny before Spence did it.

[Sid-Knee]

You're a clown. You're saying the combined resumes of Spence, Crawford, Garcia, and Thurman wouldn't be HOF worthy?

I'm far too lazy to look up their ranked opponents so I'll take the easy way out and list wins they have combined over big 4 world titlists:
Chris Algieri
Kell Brook (twice)
Lamont Peterson (twice)
Mikey Garcia
Shawn Porter (three times)
Danny Garcia (twice)
Yordenis Ugas
Ricky Burns
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Ray Beltran
Viktor Postol
Julius Indongo
Jeff Horn
Amir Khan (twice)
Nate Cambell
Kendall Holt
Erik Morales (twice)
Zab Judah
Paulie Malinaggi
Robert Guerrero (twice)
Jan Zaveck
Julio Diaz
Luis Collazo

Those are all full world titlists, not Regular, Interim, IBO, Gold, Silver, Diamnond, etc. Just the top titles of the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring, or lineal.

Combined titles won
135: WBO, Ring Magazine, Lineal
140: WBA (twice), WBC (twice), WBO, IBF, Ring Magazine (twice), Lineal (twice)
147: WBA (twice), WBC (three times), WBO, IBF

Total title defenses: 28

Spence only has 1 good world class win over Ugas. He lost the Porter fight. The rest were shot, completely damaged or bums.

Crawford only has 2 good world class wins over Postal and Porter. The rest were shot or bums.

Garcia only has 1 great win over Khan. The rest were either shot, robberies or bums.

Thurman only has 1 good world class win in Garcia. The Porter fight was a robbery. The rest were shot or bums.


To qualify for the hall, i ask for 11 points or more to get in. 1 point for a good world class win. 2 for a very good win. 3 for a great win. 4 points for an ATG win.

The combined points for all 4 fighters is 7 points. So no, they're not even close to being worthy of being accepted if their resumes were combined.

The fact you mention fighters who were mostly shot to pieces tells you how bad their resumes are. Therefore, you're the only clown here.