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  • RoadMan94
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk
    So Edward is saying Aj wasn't confident the first fight?
    Exactly. Great spot. Shame eddies followers only pick and choose when to scrutinise peoples words.

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    • Dakuwaqa
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      #12
      Originally posted by thack
      A big heavyweight with power like Joshua has no right to be struggling with a little guy like Usyk , Fury would use all of his natural advantages , size , power and strength. I'm not sure unless he gets lucky that Joshua as much chance. It's apparent he has only average abilities in the stamina and chin department and I'm not sure this is enough against a small but good fighter like Uysk.
      Fury is considerably bigger than AJ

      Usyk was a big CW

      AJ is a skinny guy wearing a muscle suit. He's narrow boned.

      Size difference isn't all that big

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      • Good ol' Douglas
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

        Fury is considerably bigger than AJ

        Usyk was a big CW

        AJ is a skinny guy wearing a muscle suit. He's narrow boned.

        Size difference isn't all that big
        I agree in general. AJ was skinny as a weed while an amateur before hopping on that good stuff. But his puncher's chance still exists.

        Usyk felt it to the body and when caught coming in despite AJ not being able to sit down on his punches and fully torque.

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        • Dakuwaqa
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          #14
          Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

          I agree in general. AJ was skinny as a weed while an amateur before hopping on that good stuff. But his puncher's chance still exists.

          Usyk felt it to the body and when caught coming in despite AJ not being able to sit down on his punches and fully torque.
          Yup. If you look at his wrist, shoulders, head etc you can see he’s not naturally big like a WK, Joyce, DDD and Fury.

          Just tall.

          He does have a serious punch though. Problem is he struggles landing straight punches at range. He’s most effective when he’s hooking and throwing uppercuts midrange.

          His gas tank is poor so he needs success early.

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            #15
            A loss to Usyk would obviously be a major setback for his career - especially people's estimation of him being able to beat Tyson fury who is a terrific boxer, so if A.J. can't overcome the boxing skills of Usyk, how is he supposed to beat Fury?

            But there is an upside. Fans have wanted to see A.J v Wilder for a long time and their styles make for an explosive fight.

            Then you have Usyk v Fury which probably won't be as exciting, but for the pure boxing fans, it's still mouthwateringly attractive.

            It's not the end of the excitement in the HW division as many exciting young prospects are coming through, and who knows? we might even see pathological former frug treat Big baby Miller in a decent fight soon.

            I personally am going to be cheering for A.J. come August 20, as I think if he wins he makes for far more interesting fights.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk
              So Edward is saying Aj wasn't confident the first fight?
              Nope. I've read the article and he didn't say that. Didn't even slightly imply it.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                Yup. If you look at his wrist, shoulders, head etc you can see he’s not naturally big like a WK, Joyce, DDD and Fury.

                Just tall.

                He does have a serious punch though. Problem is he struggles landing straight punches at range. He’s most effective when he’s hooking and throwing uppercuts midrange.

                His gas tank is poor so he needs success early.
                Joshua would be better weighing in the 220s like Wilder.

                He'd have more stamina and be quicker, both things he needs.

                Wilder almost ko'd 275lb fury when he weighed 215 and he did worse when he bulked up.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

                  Joshua would be better weighing in the 220s like Wilder.

                  He'd have more stamina and be quicker, both things he needs.

                  Wilder almost ko'd 275lb fury when he weighed 215 and he did worse when he bulked up.
                  There's no weight where Joshua out boxes Usyk. His speed and stamina will never match up.

                  His optimum weight should be whatever is best to hurt Usyk early.

                  Wilder was an exception to just about every rule in boxing.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

                    Joshua would be better weighing in the 220s like Wilder.

                    He'd have more stamina and be quicker, both things he needs.

                    Wilder almost ko'd 275lb fury when he weighed 215 and he did worse when he bulked up.
                    Wilder did worse because Fury had time to shed the ring rust off and in the second and even third fight weighed a career high where Wilder was never going to be able to outlast the far bigger Fury who weighed just about 280 ,Wilder was 238 for that fight and didn’t help ,Fury in the second fight had a training camp with no distractions it wasn’t close at all .

                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-02-2022, 10:48 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                      Doesn't matter. He thought he would walk through Usyk just like foreman thought he would walk through Ali. I hate to make comparisons like this but basically it's the same fight. Usyk picked Joshua apart and nearly knocked him out in the 12th round. Same size disparity as well.
                      Another false post .

                      Ali vs Foreman was only a few pounds difference by about 4/5 pounds . Both were also the same height give or take an inch or whatever. A.J is about 3 inches taller and outweighed Usyk by at least 20 pounds so where did you come to the conclusion they are the same size disparity ?

                      Foreman simply punched himself out with a lot of missed punches and a high punch count while Ali baited him to do that , Usyk vs A.J was a very competitive boxing match where neither could actually impose anything greatly until the last round with A.J having a low volume punch count in power shots the whole fight unlike Foreman did vs Ali ,if you watch the 10th round you’ll see that’s when the biggest exchanges happened and where both guys marked each other up the most .

                      Stating Usyk nearly knocked him out in the 12th isn’t a reality either you’ll see Usyk misses about 7 shots while A.J avoids the last flurries with one or two actually connecting solidly on the ropes acknowledging the fight was over . The forum loves to exaggerate on here .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-02-2022, 11:08 AM.

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