Comments Thread For: Goossen: Santa Cruz, Isaac Cruz, Barrios Don't Hit As Hard As Ryan Garcia, Have His Boxing IQ

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  • tokon
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    #11
    Originally posted by -Kev-

    It’s not about dictating. It’s that now he knows Ryan has issues making 135, so now he would love the fight to take place there. If Tank was the one having issues making 135, Mayweather would want the fight at 140.
    Oh yes, very true, but it's Cryan that's calling for the fight. Mayweather has said it's there at 135 so.uts up to Cryan whether he wants to call them on it and take the fight at 135.
    if he doesn't then he needs to move on and start calling out the names in the weight division he is now in cos tank us at 135.

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    • Sctrojan
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      #12
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      Well…

      1. Tank hits harder than Campbell, Fonseca and Fortuna
      2. Isaac Cruz hits pretty hard, he just isn’t as fast and tends to be more wild
      3. Tank is faster and moves better than anyone Ryan has fought.

      The best mover Ryan has fought was probably Tagoe, and he seemed to have been too slippery for Ryan to stop. Fortuna was also a good mover, but was outgunned.

      Tank would not be big/tall, but he would certainly be the most powerful, the fastest, the most mobile, and the most dangerous counterpuncher.

      Ryan can be wiping out Tank, then, boom, 6th-8th one punch KO by Tank. Even in the 12th round. Tank has that kind of power and speed.
      Or since Ryan will hold nearly every advantage one could have in boxing against Tank,he could very easily catch him trying to close the gap early on and khtfo? That's of course if Tank doesn't turn it into a track meet like Tagoe.
      Last edited by Sctrojan; 07-22-2022, 05:24 PM.

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      • Grandma Pleaser
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Kev-

        If he catches Ryan Garcia would you consider Ryan one of the bums he caught?
        No. Ryan is actually a good opponent. Not to mention he has the better resume

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        • mxtali
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          #14
          Can Ryan keep his right hand up consistently to not get flattened? Cruz did a good job of it.

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          • Corelone
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            #15
            I can't see past the flat feet and the monumental movement. Ryan isn't trying to look up at anybody.

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            • P4P Forever
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              #16
              Originally posted by tokon
              "in a fight Garcia stated with have to take place at the junior welterweight limit of 140 pounds because he can no longer get down to the lightweight maximum of 135 pounds."

              So it isn't happening. Mayweather is not going to let Garcia dictate ****.
              Stank fought at 140 less then a year ago .Hello Brags he can fight that weight. Lying Fake then ducks and uses weight as the newest excuses! Yup. ***** move weak AF, no one surprised. They can do a catch weight easy. Davis don't want that smoke. In fact he ain't even got real option, cuz hes running from everyone, every weight division.Thats a Fact! This fake's best win in 10 years. He KOed a blotted up Feather Weight past his prime Ohhhh. lol Right Leo dropped back down right after that fight. Go watch him fight Rolly again, in your basement as you make up more dumb ass excuses for this fake weak bum. Tank ain't running nothing, just running away again as usual. boy who cried wolf until nobody cared
              Last edited by P4P Forever; 07-22-2022, 07:01 PM.

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              • edpboxing
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                #17
                Originally posted by Regge

                Ryan Is bigger, faster, longer, hits harder and imposes a much better jab than all those guys. You really can't see that?
                bigger , faster, longer, hits harder have absolutely nothing to do with Ring IQ lol.

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                • billeau2
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                  #18
                  Ryan is a very talented fighter. He has a classic stand up style... think Classic De La Hoya or Arguello... I know those are large shoes to grow into, but that is the how Ryan's talents present. Tank has a different set of strengths, but like Ryan both guys have power. naturally people see this and gravitate towards it because power is so tangible an asset to have in the ring...

                  Cruz is a fantastic fighter. The reason people do not see it is because Cruz does not rely on his power, he is a bona fide pressure fighter. When he attacks he makes punchers go backwards... I thought he beat Tank personally... But he did show how it is possible to shut down the power of an opponent the way pressure fighters are supposed to do in the ring.

                  Cruz has a high ring IQ and stays together... I think he is a live dog against any other guy at the 135-140 range. Haney would prolly present the most problems for him, but that would only be because both guys are diametrical opposites. And by no means do I think this means Haney wins that one.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by P4P Forever

                    Stank fought at 140 less then a year ago .Hello Brags he can fight that weight. Lying Fake then ducks and uses weight as the newest excuses! Yup. ***** move weak AF, no one surprised. They can do a catch weight easy. Davis don't want that smoke. In fact he ain't even got real option, cuz hes running from everyone, every weight division.Thats a Fact! This fake's best win in 10 years. He KOed a blotted up Feather Weight past his prime Ohhhh. lol Right Leo dropped back down right after that fight. Go watch him fight Rolly again, in your basement as you make up more dumb ass excuses for this fake weak bum. Tank ain't running nothing, just running away again as usual. boy who cried wolf until nobody cared
                    Tank is the senior citizen in this group lol... what that means is that Tank is probably at his apex weight. Ryan Cruz and Devon all have not even developed their man strength yet...

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #20
                      I don't know about that power statement with Marrio Barrios. I'd really like to see him fight Barrios. Or any actual live opponent at 140.

                      Ever think we will see Ryan vs Prograis while Prograis is still a live opponent? I'd bet ****ing not.

                      Also, one thing going against Ryan is his tendancy to stand straight up, no head movement, and try to evade with his hands out and in a straight line backwards.

                      That's a recipe for disaster whenever he finally faces someone actually good.

                      I don't think I've ever seen a boxer with clout move up without even winning a title.

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