Mayweather Returns, Expected Easy Drubbing of Marquez

[crold1]

Its always after the fact.

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It was said repeatedly by anyone with a brain BEFORE the Marquez fight. See Friday's Pre-Fight report Card.

[Homer69]

HAIL TO NEW NO. 1 P4P FIGHTER IN THE WORLD...MAYWEATHER IS THE BEST PAY-FOR-POUNDS FIGHTER EVER!

The fight didn't really highlight Gyaweather's skills. On the contrary, it highlighted his fear of Marquez pulling an upset. How else could you explain the need to go 2 lbs over the catchweight to fight an older lightweight midget past his prime who got suckered to fight at welter?

[Pullcounter]

I know there's a reason. That same reason is why Cotto beats Pac.

i've been predicting cotto over pac for a long time now.

Listen to Emanuel steward about a minute into the 9th round of Mayweather JMM.

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Pac's skills are great but Mayweather will pick him apart the same way he just picked apart one of the best technical fighters today.

depends on the catchweight... the close to 140 lbs it gets, the better pac's chances... at 147 lbs floyd is too big.

I like Pac but he's over rated at this current time.

and floyd isn't overrated for beating up a blown up LW at WW?

He's no WW. Mayweather will walk all over him and people will again say Mayweather's picking on the smaller guys once again. (after the fact of course).

ni99a please... I've been saying this for a long time now. I've been saying that jmm and pac are not WW and too small to beat cotto and pbf.

stop trying to inflate pbf's win... it was a tune up... he won... cong****.. but he still only beat a LW.

Now Saying that, Mayweather's no "small" WW. He IS a WW. I don't know if he couldn't make weight or if he purposely didn't make it or what. But the fact that it happened takes any creditability away of him being that "small" WW. He's a TRUE WW and needs to fight a TRUE WW. I have Cotto beating Pac. "THERE IS A REASON WHY THERE ARE WEIGHT DIVISIONS". Mayweather needs to step up now that the "rust" is gone and fight Cotto/Mosley.

yep, floyd stans can't make the "floyd is a small WW" argument anymore... if he was, he'd have made 144 lbs.

[superchile]

mmmmmm

cotto is going to trow a monkey wrench in to the ecuation and floyd is going to have to face cotto or mosley i just hope it happens if it does not i wont pay for another ppv whit floyd in it

[budfr]

Marquez is a Warrior

Yes, Gayweather won. He was much bigger than Marquez. The funny thing is he was not able to KO Marquez, as a matter of fact, Marquez was doing the chasing for most of the fight. If you want to consider boxing a sport for athleticism, fine; let´s see more runners-huggers like Gayweather. He was being cautious knowing he was the bigger man. At the end, Marquez was never seriously hurt, and was throwing blows. Judges are making pro boxing look like Amateur boxing because they give points to the number of punches, which helps the faster men. After a barrage, which most of the time does not even bother the other fighter, they hug or back pedal. They should take into consideration the courage, power of the blows, and not hugging, to determine who deserves points. In other words, consider the true warrior spirit.

[WESS]

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It was said repeatedly by anyone with a brain BEFORE the Marquez fight. See Friday's Pre-Fight report Card.

Yes people that knew the sport well, knew it was going to happen before. Many on here did not.

Many people before the Hatton fight did not. Most of the time its haters talking out of emotions.

My point is everyone's game for a Pac man fight. It will be "after the fact" that Pac will look the smaller man, he will get schooled on every level of the game. he wont be faster, he won be stronger and he will have no defense vs Mayweather because his defense is his offense he will be countered all night. Pac has more of a chance getting KO'ed than JMM because of his style. He gets wild and leaves himself open, hints he doesn't have great defense only his offense.

Mayweather will walk all over him and my point is/was we will be sitting here all over again talking about how Mayweather's A REAL WW and needs to fight a REAL WW and not the "smaller" guys. That's all. I'm ready to see him fight a real challenge now that his ring rust is gone.

[WESS]

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i've been predicting cotto over pac for a long time now.

I know you have, i'm not telling you anything you dont already know. I think we already argued this subject awhile back before the weight was set. I think I had Cotto winning at 140-147. you I think had pac winningat 140-144. Anything over was Cotto.

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I watched it live and only have it recorded on Direct TV. I will how ever look for it because I've said it a few times now and need to have a link anyway.

depends on the catchweight... the close to 140 lbs it gets, the better pac's chances... at 147 lbs floyd is too big.

Yea we talked about that. I still think Cotto has it.

and floyd isn't overrated for beating up a blown up LW at
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I don't think so. He showed everyone his technical skills the other night vs someone with great technical skills. It was however a tune up fight.

ni99a please... I've been saying this for a long time now. I've been saying that jmm and pac are not WW and too small to beat cotto and pbf.

and I agree with you. Many people disagree with us. Most of them probably said JMM would beat PBF too.

stop trying to inflate pbf's win... it was a tune up... he won... cong****.. but he still only beat a LW.

I'm not if you look at some of my previous posts I have said several times that this was in fact a tune up fight. It is what it is. I knew it wasn't going to be a challenge but a fight to make statement. I think he needed a KO to really make one but he showed he still has it and that he could walk al over Pac IMO.

yep, floyd stans can't make the "floyd is a small WW" argument anymore... if he was, he'd have made 144 lbs.

I never did I've always wanted him to fight REAL WW's. i also understand with him its always the double ended sword. People want him to fight Pac now but when its over its he just beat up another smaller man.... he never wins....

anyway i feel ya. I think where on the same page.

[aguileraluis22]

Funny how nobody mentions that mayweather couldn't knock out some who was probably at fight nigh close to 20 pounds lighter. Not only that but how after that second round mayweather hit marquez with that same hook and couldn't put him down. True marquez is a great fighter but when you have someone that small you should be able to finish. Shows the lack of power mayweather has and the reason why people enjoy paquiao, cotto, dela hoya fights more than his. Don't get me wrong he's a great boxer very technical and great defense but he's not a one of the greatest fighters out there. reasons why holyfield, marciano, sugar, all of the true greats were considered great was because they would leave it all in the ring they didn't go out to box for a payday. they went out to be the best and beat their opponents not by decision but to knock them out. if floyd would've of been more offensive against marquez it would've of made for a better fight. no reason for him to be a chicken **** with marquez specially as small as marquez was. hopefully mayweather does decide not to fight manny and instead go after the real welterweights like mosley, cotto, berto. If he beats those guys like he did marquez then i'll jump on the wagon and say he's a great fighter. but until he stops ducking all the star welterweights then he's just another ***** that's only there for the money. If he really wanted to be considered among the greats then he would step up and fight these guys. you don't have to be undefeated to be a hall of fame fighter. you just have to fight the greats of your time win or lose leave it in the ring.

so mayweather beat marquez, does that mean he got manny's left overs? lol

[aguileraluis22]

You are completely right! thats why mma is taking fans away from boxing. cause there the fighters are out there to win and be the best. to knockout the other guy. mayweather just wants to score points and win by decision and be considered the best. i'd like to see him fight a bigger man that's about 20 lbs heavier on fight night and see if he comes close to what marquez did. marquez got handled only cause mayweather wouldn't fight him. any time they would exchange marquez would get the better punches in. but mayweather showed that in this stage of his career he is too scared of losing and is ok with just scoring points and hopefully winning by decision. i don't like mayweather, i see more action in olympic boxing where they still wear head gear lol.