Comments Thread For: Photos: Andy Ruiz, Luis Ortiz - Face To Face at LA Press Conference

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  • SteveM
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    #21
    1st photo - who got the biggest cup size? Ortiz edges it with a doubleC to Andy's B cup.

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    • mjh1969
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      #22
      Originally posted by takenotes
      Ruiz looks to be in better shape. Ortiz looks like he is 50 years old. Ruiz by KO.
      I was thinking the same thing. I would say he is about 51 or 52, give or take. I got Ruiz by eight round KO.

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      • smsaks2000
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        #23
        I'm thinking this will be the fight where we see
        1 - Ortiz starting to look real old. Winded by the 5-6 round.
        2 - Andy Ruiz at around 140 lbs.

        I think that Ortiz will send Ruiz to the canvas in a flash knockdown within the first 2 round. Ortiz will start running out of gas around rounds 5 or 6 then get put to sleep before 10.

        \m/

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        • Boxfan83
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          #24
          Ortiz is old but counter punching is an old man's style of fighting and he's been doing it his whole life. Ruiz needs to not stay in the pocket too long. Im backing Ruiz but given the styles, Ortiz can pull an upset.

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            #25
            It's Number 3 vs. Number 8 – All-Time. At least, that's the way I see it.

            As a self styled “boxing historian”, I am pretty excited about the upcoming all-Latino battle between American Andy Ruiz and Cuban Luis Ortiz. It's huge. Here's why. As a P4P or Per Capita measure, Hispanics make a strong case for being the greatest fighter ethnicity in the human race. Naturally, every national, ethnic, cultural group has their teacher, their scientist, architect, intellectual, entertainer, artist, politician, academic, cook, laborer, historian.... and warrior. Some have failed to bring unarmed combat to art form level due to laws. Others have been successful enough in other areas to render their population especially gentrified, and not feeling much need for the practice of fighting. Still others have worked to raise the unarmed combat / prizefighting level in their culture to a point of perfection where their fighters are the among the world's best. The Thais have done this. Within Asia, the fighting ability of the Thais has sped beyond those of much larger nations such as China, India, Indonesia and Vietnam and their ring warriors can most often, history shows; dust off the practitioners of the less effective and overly complicated martial arts styles of their higher population neighbors. Simply put, Thais are good at hand to hand fighting. The people who identify as Hispanic or Iberian or Latin American number 4.8% of global population. And yet, their cultures make up some 41% of all professional boxers across 181 of the planet's total 195 nations where pro boxing exists in 2022.

            Hispanic fighters flood into Boxing as a viable means to uplift the life quality of themselves and their loved ones.

            It goes without saying that weight divisions exist in combat sports to protect smaller fighters from the inarguable advantages held by larger ones, and that therefore; the Heavyweights are the defacto 'champions' of fighting.

            With this as an information backdrop, here are the Greatest Hispanic / Iberian / Latin American Heavyweights of the past 250 years:
            1. Daniel Mendoza, Spain
            2. Luis Firpo, Argentina
            3. Andy Ruiz Jr., United States
            4. Arturo Godoy, Chile
            5. Oscar Bonavena, Argentina
            6. Nino Valdez, Cuba
            7. Paulino Uzcudun, Spain
            8. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
            9. John Ruiz, United States
            10. Gregorio Peralta, Argentina
            11. Chris Arreola, United States
            12. Jose Manuel Urtain, Spain
            13. Alfredo Evangelista, Uruguay
            14. Cesar Brion, Argentina
            15. Jose Santa, Portugal
            16. Isidoro Gastanaga, Spain
            17. Alberto Santiago Lovell, Argentina
            18. Jose Luis Garcia, Venezuela
            19. Alfredo Zuany, Mexico
            20. Omelio Agramonte, Cuba
            21. Tony Fuente, Mexico
            22. Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Cuba
            23. Alejandro Lavorante, Argentina
            24. Bernardo Mercado, Colombia
            25. Osvaldo “Jaws” Ocasio, Puerto Rico
            26. Odlanier Solis, Cuba
            27. Abel Cestac, Argentina
            28. Eduardo Corletti, Argentina
            29. Alex Miteff, Argentina
            30. Manuel Ramos, Mexico
            31. Adilson Rodrigues, Brazil
            32. Victorio Campolo, Argentina
            33. Julio Mederos, Cuba
            34. Jorge Luis Gonzalez, Cuba
            35. Young John Herrera, Cuba
            36. Fres Oquendo, United States
            37. Eddie The Animal Lopez, United States
            38. Alfredo Lagay, Argentina
            39. Joe “King” Roman, Puerto Rico
            40. Luis Faustino Pires, Brazil
            41. Quintin Romero Rojas, Chile
            42. Elieser Castillo, Cuba
            43. Kid Rivera (James Williams), United States
            44. Pedro Agosto, Puerto Rico
            45. Felipe Rodriguez, Spain
            46. Jose Nino Ribalta, Cuba
            47. Domingo D'Elia, Argentina
            48. Jose Giorgetti, Argentina
            49. Agostinho Guedes, Portugal
            50. Claudio Villar, Spain

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            • 4truth
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              #26
              Originally posted by smsaks2000
              I'm thinking this will be the fight where we see
              1 - Ortiz starting to look real old. Winded by the 5-6 round.
              2 - Andy Ruiz at around 140 Kg

              I think that Ortiz will send Ruiz to the canvas in a flash knockdown within the first 2 round. Ortiz will start running out of gas around rounds 5 or 6 then get put to sleep before 10.

              \m/
              fixed that for you

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #27
                I am 42 and I have never been a professional sportsman, Ortiz looks 15 years older than me.

                Ruiz by a KO.

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                • Wacked_Out
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by takenotes
                  Ruiz looks to be in better shape. Ortiz looks like he is 50 years old. Ruiz by KO.
                  That's great considering he's 60.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #29
                    I wonder if Ortiz thinks he can beat ruiz? Ortiz knows wilder beat him with one straight right down the pipe that's all it took.

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                    • Willow The Wisp
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                      #30
                      If Ruiz wins, will this be the first time an AJ title opponent beats a Wilder title opponent? We know the opposite is true.

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