Garcia gave Haney 2 standing 8's in amateurs

[TheCell8]

The difference between Garcia and Tank, Haney, and Teofimo Lopez is that that they have all peaked and he hasn't.

He's already better than them now. But in two years, he's going to run through all of them.

[Larry the boss]

Means nothing now

[SUBZER0ED]

Yes, and I do as well as a lot of other people. People cared when Chicken Bowe ran from Lennox because Lennox got a TKO win over Bowe in the amateurs. So yea, it's real, it matters, and people care.

If I was going to fight someone in the pro's I fought in the amateurs and gave them standing 8's; and I've dished out some standing 8's in the amateurs, I would be supremely confident. It's a big deal which is why I posted it. If you don't see the connection, that's on you. But from someone who's done it, it matters especially when people are saying Ryan is ducking Haney.

They were kids. To put much weight on Garcia's alleged dominance over Haney in the amateurs is to suggest that Devin hasn't grown and developed since then. Yes, Bowe tossed the WBC belt in the trash can rather than face mando Lennox, but such is not the case with Haney and Garcia. Is Ryan begging for a shot at Haney? Is he his mandatory challenger? Right now, he's begging for a shot at Tank, a naturally smaller man who is 4.5 inches shorter and has a 2.5 inch reach deficit.

[War Room]

They were kids. To put much weight on Garcia's alleged dominance over Haney in the amateurs is to suggest that Devin hasn't grown and developed since then. Yes, Bowe tossed the WBC belt in the trash can rather than face mando Lennox, but such is not the case with Haney and Garcia. Is Ryan begging for a shot at Haney? Is he his mandatory challenger? Right now, he's begging for a shot at Tank, a naturally smaller man who is 4.5 inches shorter and has a 2.5 inch reach deficit.

Some of their fights they might have been kids, but not all. You should watch this before thinking about your next steps, listen closely to what they say about fighting each other.

So everyone has to be equal heights now or it's not a fair fight lol?

Floyd was smaller than most of his opponents. Reach, you have to divide the reach by 2. A 2" reach difference is really a 1" reach difference because fighters have 2 arms.

[QueensburyRules]

Ryan vacated the WBC interim belt to avoid Haney. What happened between them as kids doesn't matter. When the opportunity came to fight one of them ran away

- - Took 15 months off not fighting ANYONE in the middle of the Corona Panic and now back at 140.

Poor Heinie wif all them belts now covered in his run and stink and no place to hide.

[Zaroku]

The difference between Garcia and Tank, Haney, and Teofimo Lopez is that that they have all peaked and he hasn't.

He's already better than them now. But in two years, he's going to run through all of them.

Spoken like a true lover of boxing

[Zaroku]

They were kids. To put much weight on Garcia's alleged dominance over Haney in the amateurs is to suggest that Devin hasn't grown and developed since then. Yes, Bowe tossed the WBC belt in the trash can rather than face mando Lennox, but such is not the case with Haney and Garcia. Is Ryan begging for a shot at Haney? Is he his mandatory challenger? Right now, he's begging for a shot at Tank, a naturally smaller man who is 4.5 inches shorter and has a 2.5 inch reach deficit.

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nice post btw.

[SUBZER0ED]

Some of their fights they might have been kids, but not all. You should watch this before thinking about your next steps, listen closely to what they say about fighting each other.

So everyone has to be equal heights now or it's not a fair fight lol?

Floyd was smaller than most of his opponents. Reach, you have to divide the reach by 2. A 2" reach difference is really a 1" reach difference because fighters have 2 arms.

The video shows me these two are buddies, who will fight when the time is right, i.e. when it is a huge PPV event. Haney demonstrated that he actually punches harder than Garcia. Ryan didn't expect that, saying that he warmed up and Devin might need to warm up too

I don't remember a single opponent that Floyd faced who was 4.5 inches taller than he, save for his silly exhibition crap. And the arm reach difference is 2.5" which is 1.25" per arm. add that to the 4.5 inch height difference. Tank is a counter puncher. How can he counter someone that much taller than him if the guy actually uses his jab?

[Lomadeaux]

standing 8s in the amateurs are sometimes BS and at the discretion of the ref. I received one due to my head going back on a punch that had absolutely no effect on me. I asked the ref, "does it look like I'm hurt?"

Yea, I can tell you loads of stories. I've seen NATIONAL refs give standing 8 counts to the guys LANDING the punch. It can get wild and mistakes happen. I got one where the dude hit me with the laces of his gloves and the ref called stop. I started walking to the neutral corner knowing he was warning or taking a point from him and I turn and he's giving me an 8 count. But yea, bragging about giving a guy an 8 count in the amateurs when you're a pro is pretty weak.

[War Room]

The video shows me these two are buddies, who will fight when the time is right, i.e. when it is a huge PPV event. Haney demonstrated that he actually punches harder than Garcia. Ryan didn't expect that, saying that he warmed up and Devin might need to warm up too

I don't remember a single opponent that Floyd faced who was 4.5 inches taller than he, save for his silly exhibition crap. And the arm reach difference is 2.5" which is 1.25" per arm. add that to the 4.5 inch height difference. Tank is a counter puncher. How can he counter someone that much taller than him if the guy actually uses his jab?

Are you saying Garcia is a mismatch with a 1.25" reach advantage? As far as Tank finding his mark, thats for himself to figure out. Height doesn't matter if you got the goods, plenty of fighters fought with height deficits. Garcia is the same height as Barrios with 1" less reach. How did Tank do against Barrios again?