Comments Thread For: WBA, Mendoza Named As Defendants In Charr's Amended Lawsuit Against Don King

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So you're saying the WBC and Don King weren't corrupt in working together?

The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars and Don King controlled the biggest stars decades ago. That doesn't mean the WBC was accepting bribes or that their ratings were for sale like the other organizations.

When Mike Tyson was WBC champion and refused to fight Lennox Lewis, even though Tyson was with King and Lewis wasn't, the WBC still forced Tyson to vacate the title.

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The WBC has always catered to the biggest stars and Don King controlled the biggest stars decades ago. That doesn't mean the WBC was accepting bribes or that their ratings were for sale like the other organizations.

When Mike Tyson was WBC champion and refused to fight Lennox Lewis, even though Tyson was with King and Lewis wasn't, the WBC still forced Tyson to vacate the title.

The WBC are the worst for moving their rankings about for certain fighters.

Have you forgotten about the stunt where Whyte was the number 1 for the title but Haymon had Breazeal and Molina go into camp for a mandatory shot that was going to be called 2 weeks before the fight in order to f3ck Whyte over and keep him away from Wilder? All that was planned. You don't call for the mandatory fight 2 weeks out. But Breazeal and Molina knew about it for months. They knew Whyte wasn't going to have a 1 week camp then fly out to the US for fight week. That's crazy.

Wilder shouldn't be the number 1 with the WBC after 2 straight losses. Luke Campbell was put into the number 1 position after losing his mandatory fight to Loma because Sulaiman knew with being out for so long and coming from a loss would benefit Garcia.

They're crooks. Always have been. Like father like son.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Have you forgotten about the stunt where Whyte was the number 1 for the title but Haymon had Breazeal and Molina go into camp for a mandatory shot that was going to be called 2 weeks before the fight in order to f3ck Whyte over and keep him away from Wilder?

That's not what happened. Breazeale was scheduled to face #1 Stiverne in a final eliminator. Whyte was scheduled to face Helenius for the silver title. King Kong failed a drug test and Stiverne was elevated to the main event to save the show. Breazeale was still entitled to a final eliminator though and was allowed to face the highest rated available contender. The WBC went through the ratings until someone agreed to take the fight. #10 Molina was the highest rated contender willing to take the fight on short notice. The fight was offered to Whyte, but he didn't want to pull out of the Helenius fight.

That is how Breazeale became mandatory.

Wilder shouldn't be the number 1 with the WBC after 2 straight losses.

The interim champion Whyte just got completely destroyed by Fury. Wilder on the other hand put Fury on his ass twice. Nobody in the WBC ratings has a better chance of beating Fury than Wilder does.

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That's not what happened. Breazeale was scheduled to face #1 Stiverne in a final eliminator. Whyte was scheduled to face Helenius for the silver title. King Kong failed a drug test and Stiverne was elevated to the main event to save the show. Breazeale was still entitled to a final eliminator though and was allowed to face the highest rated available contender. The WBC went through the ratings until someone agreed to take the fight. #10 Molina was the highest rated contender willing to take the fight on short notice. The fight was offered to Whyte, but he didn't want to pull out of the Helenius fight.

That is how Breazeale became mandatory.




The interim champion Whyte just got completely destroyed by Fury. Wilder on the other hand put Fury on his ass twice. Nobody in the WBC ratings has a better chance of beating Fury than Wilder does.

Whyte would have been ready had he been given enough time. They didn't need to find a mandatory in two weeks. It was a clear stich up. If the WBC had told Whyte he has to fight Breazeal next for the shot, he would have cleared his schedule and fought him. But Haymon didn't want that as he knew Whyte would win if he was given the chance to prepare. So they came up with this plan. The highest ranked fighter was Whyte, the rest of your story doesn't even come into it.

And no, Molina didn't take anything on short notice. He had months to prepare as the plan was clearly there to see. We just wanted to know how Haymon was going to go about it. Well, we saw how he did it.

Whyte fought an active and fully trained Fury whilst being out for a year. Wilder fought a 60% version who had little time to train as his daughter was ill in hospital. There's a big difference there. But why would Wilder become number 1 based on KD's? Haha. KD's don't even come into it. Wilder has lost his last two fights by stoppage. He shouldn't be anywhere near the top 5 in the rankings. But nice try.

Did you enjoy the news about the WBA as well?

[WBC WBA IBF]

no, Molina didn't take anything on short notice. He had months to prepare as the plan was clearly there to see.

You're saying Haymon had King Kong purposely fail a drug test?

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You're saying Haymon had King Kong purposely fail a drug test?

No, i'm saying the WBC should have called for Whyte vs Breazeal at another date. Had Whyte been offered that deal and turned it down, then you'd have a point. But he wasn't offered it, nor would he have turned it down if he were.

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You're saying Haymon had King Kong purposely fail a drug test?

Got him.

[WBC WBA IBF]

No, i'm saying the WBC should have called for Whyte vs Breazeal at another date. Had Whyte been offered that deal and turned it down, then you'd have a point. But he wasn't offered it, nor would he have turned it down if he were.

King Kong failed a drug test, resulting in Stiverne being elevated to the main event, resulting in Breazeale needing a replacement opponent for his final eliminator.

You claimed the whole thing was a conspiracy theory and Haymon planned all along for Molina to be in the eliminator, but for that to be true, that means Haymon had King Kong fail the drug test on purpose, which is ridiculous.

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King Kong failed a drug test, resulting in Stiverne being elevated to the main event, resulting in Breazeale needing a replacement opponent for his final eliminator.

You claimed the whole thing was a conspiracy theory and Haymon planned all along for Molina to be in the eliminator, but for that to be true, that means Haymon had King Kong fail the drug test on purpose, which is ridiculous.

Haymon was planning on keeping Whyte out in any way he could. This came up so he went with this direction. Wilder even told Whyte he'd make him wait for 2 years. We both know Haymon keeps his options open in case something pops up. Molina didn't have 2 weeks to prepare. But Molina shouldn't have even been in the ring.

And i wouldn't put it past Haymon with Ortiz and his drug testing. The same thing happened at the "Right time" when Wilder had to travel to Russia to fight Povetkin.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Haymon was planning on keeping Whyte out in any way he could.

That doesn't make any sense because when the step aside deal was worked out with Stiverne and Wilder vs. Ortiz was announced, Stiverne was rated #1, Ortiz was rated #2 and Whyte was rated #4. Whyte only became #1 because Ortiz failed the drug test. So your entire premise literally makes no sense whatsoever.