Is Pac better than JMM ?

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  • civicvx
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    #11
    You should be very happy that one judge made a misake on the first round scoring in their first fight.

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    • PensionKiller
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      #12
      Floyld will get a lot of respect if he beats Pac. He is the P4P number 1 in my eyes so far. A win over Cotto will make him number 1 without a doubt, even if Marquez wins this fight tonight. However I personally feel Cotto is a tough fight for Pac on his size, power and timiing. I'm not sure if Pac can beat Cotto when I think about it VERY carefully. Compared to the true welter champs, Floyld has a better chance to win VS Manny, and I feel someone like Mosley, Paul Williams, and even Cotto have a better chance of beating him. This is due to their size difference mainly, but also they all have things that will make any defensive fighter have trouble.

      Mosley has speed, power and stamina.
      Williams has a huge ass frame, decent pop, and a great workrate.
      Cotto has decent speed, power, and good timing.

      The flyold that showed up to Oscar gets beat by all 3 IMO. Although I must note that it was a different weight and Oscar had everything in his advantage.

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      • wizard king
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        #13
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        Floyd would absolutely get full credit for beating Pacquiao. Whether Pac is better than JMM will vary from person to person, but Pac has physical gifts that allow him to be just as effective now at 140 and 147 as he was at 126 and 130 fighting Marquez. That's why Cotto fighting Pac is a much more legit fight to boxing fans than Floyd-JMM. Maybe JMM makes us all look foolish and looks great at welterweight tonight, but Pac is already proven.

        To put it short, no excuses if Floyd and Pac fight and Floyd beats his ass.
        i love the fact that morons like the one that posted this crap for get that pac barly could hang with jmm yet these same morons claim that pbf can do all that jmm does but better but yet this morons claim that pac can beat pbf or has a better chance to beat pbf then jmm when pac could barly hang with jmm. yet jmm is called a tune up and pac man wouldt be when pbf eats pac style for breakfast.man this **** is to comical. pac has already been proven to damm comical.

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        • wizard king
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          #14
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          yup, take away floyd's defensive prowess, take away PAC's speed and movement, take away Valero's power, take away Bernard's smarts....

          what a ****ing dumb**** answer
          eat a **** ***get

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          • PensionKiller
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            #15
            Originally posted by Makavelli
            yup, take away floyd's defensive prowess, take away PAC's speed and movement, take away Valero's power, take away Bernard's smarts....

            what a ****ing dumb**** answer
            I agree. In boxing, you can't say take away this or that. Boxing is about everything as a collective, but some shine above others.

            Floyld would not be Floyld without his refelxes and amazing eyes. He can watch your every move and has the physical gifts to adjust in a split second. Without them, he won't be the fighter he is.

            That goes for Manny too. Manny is all about movement, speed and power punches.

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            • -MAKAVELLI-
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              #16
              Originally posted by wizard king
              eat a **** ***get


              take away my brain, my **** and my grasp of basic boxing concepts and i would be the little ***** i quoted

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              • Glamour Puss
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                #17
                JMM is the better fighter.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Still Pimpin
                  Would Floyd get credit for beating Pac ?
                  yes

                  Do you think Pac is better than JMM ?
                  yes

                  Should Cotto get credit for fighting the smaller man in Pac ?
                  no

                  Are the Asian fans rooting for JMM and dissing Floyd because they are in fear of the day Pac meets Floyd.
                  why? they wanna see pac/floyd.

                  Do Pac fans realize that JMM won the majority of round in both Pac fights ?
                  do pat-haters understand that jmm got put on his back 4x and that a judges made scoring errors and that each round was close and competitive and these fights happened at 126 and 130 lbs and that pac is a better boxer now than before?

                  I'm black but as a boxing fan I'm still pissed at Pac's fan base for accepting the win over JMM and acting like the **** didn't happen.
                  my ni99a... jmm lost 2x.

                  As a Mexican does this bother you that Pac is ranked #1 p4p and not JMM ?
                  here's a better question, as a mexican does it bother you that floyd has stacked the deck against pac?

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                  • Owlzfan84
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                    #19
                    I do think Pac is better then JMM overall. Styles make fights and JMM's style will always give Pac a tough time.

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #20
                      No credit to Floyd for beating either above 140 lbs, though I will give Floyd credit for beating Pac at 145 if he gets by Cotto.

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