My GGG vs Canelo II Scorecard + Thoughts on Trilogy

[War Room]

I haven't watched this fight since it happened so I want to have fresh eyes on it. My original score was 8-4 GGG.

In this sitting I had watch rounds 1 and 3 more than once due to phone calls coming in. The reason I put an * next to round 1 is because I thought it could have swung towards Canelo due to his 2 left hooks landing. I know all three judges gave this round to GGG and that's probably based on jabs, but I count hooks as more valuable. Granted, there weren't big shots, but not jabs all the same. I think GGG landed a little right hand towards the end so I scored it even with an edge to Canelo. I did watch round 7 more than once as well, still scored it even. I made an ammendment at the final scores as a hypothetical.

1. Even*
2. Canelo
3. GGG
4. GGG
5. Canelo
6. Canelo
7. Even
8. GGG
9. GGG
10. GGG
11. GGG
12. GGG

FINAL: 117-113 (or *116-113 if you want to give Canelo round 1)

One thing I will say, this should have at worst been a Draw. Scoring the last round for Canelo got him the win and he CLEARLY lost that round.

Thoughts on Trilogy
I believe both fighters are not the same. GGG has slowed down and I think Canelo has as well.

Canelo fought the entire fight in this rematch and since then, he's given away lots of rounds against lesser opponents in hopes to catch them, which he has. Blame it on the weight or whatever else, but at the end of the day his output is less and he's looking to do more counters than set up shots with output. Canelo having to drop weight can only hurt him so it's really hard to pick a winner. Canelo definitely gets hit more now than he has in fights prior to GGG.

GGG still fights the entire fight, but his punches are slower, not as accurate as they once were, and maybe gets hit a little more.

As always, if it goes to the cards, Cleneloterol will always have the advantage unless he loses 10-2 which I'm not sure GGG can do a 10-2.

[QueensburyRules]

I haven't watched this fight since it happened so I want to have fresh eyes on it. My original score was 8-4 GGG.

In this sitting I had watch rounds 1 and 3 more than once due to phone calls coming in. The reason I put an * next to round 1 is because I thought it could have swung towards Canelo due to his 2 left hooks landing. I know all three judges gave this round to GGG and that's probably based on jabs, but I count hooks as more valuable. Granted, there weren't big shots, but not jabs all the same. I think GGG landed a little right hand towards the end so I scored it even with an edge to Canelo. I did watch round 7 more than once as well, still scored it even. I made an ammendment at the final scores as a hypothetical.

1. Even*
2. Canelo
3. GGG
4. GGG
5. Canelo
6. Canelo
7. Even
8. GGG
9. GGG
10. GGG
11. GGG
12. GGG

FINAL: 117-113 (or *116-113 if you want to give Canelo round 1)

One thing I will say, this should have at worst been a Draw. Scoring the last round for Canelo got him the win and he CLEARLY lost that round.

Thoughts on Trilogy
I believe both fighters are not the same. GGG has slowed down and I think Canelo has as well.

Canelo fought the entire fight in this rematch and since then, he's given away lots of rounds against lesser opponents in hopes to catch them, which he has. Blame it on the weight or whatever else, but at the end of the day his output is less and he's looking to do more counters than set up shots with output. Canelo having to drop weight can only hurt him so it's really hard to pick a winner. Canelo definitely gets hit more now than he has in fights prior to GGG.

GGG still fights the entire fight, but his punches are slower, not as accurate as they once were, and maybe gets hit a little more.

As always, if it goes to the cards, Cleneloterol will always have the advantage unless he loses 10-2 which I'm not sure GGG can do a 10-2.

- - U stoopid still squallin' over Canelo taking ring center and knocked Golovkin sideways anytime he tried to invade the space, classic King of the Mountain stuff.

It's like U was born yesterday squallin' today for the umpteenth day.

[Silence]

War Bum's reel

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[Boxing-1013]

I scored both fights similarly - Canelo starts well enough but GGG still matches his output in the early 4 to 6 rounds. Pretty even through 4 to 6 rounds in both fights. Then GGG starts to warm up and Canelo's stamina seems to slow down, and GGG just piles up most of the middle - middle/late rounds.

I expect Canelo to win this time out but I wouldn't be surprised if GGG's style, even at 40, is still a tough one for him to clearly beat.

[War Room]

- - U stoopid still squallin' over Canelo taking ring center and knocked Golovkin sideways anytime he tried to invade the space, classic King of the Mountain stuff.

It's like U was born yesterday squallin' today for the umpteenth day.

You've had your run, you never once have posted anything of substance. I took you off ignore for fun, but you barely make sense and when you do it's lunacy. Time to go back into the gimp cage.

[War Room]

War Bum's reel

You know, I thought you might have been an alt for ThuglifeNelo, but I'm starting to see similarities with 1hourrun.

[Cypocryphy]

I haven't watched this fight since it happened so I want to have fresh eyes on it. My original score was 8-4 GGG.

In this sitting I had watch rounds 1 and 3 more than once due to phone calls coming in. The reason I put an * next to round 1 is because I thought it could have swung towards Canelo due to his 2 left hooks landing. I know all three judges gave this round to GGG and that's probably based on jabs, but I count hooks as more valuable. Granted, there weren't big shots, but not jabs all the same. I think GGG landed a little right hand towards the end so I scored it even with an edge to Canelo. I did watch round 7 more than once as well, still scored it even. I made an ammendment at the final scores as a hypothetical.

1. Even*
2. Canelo
3. GGG
4. GGG
5. Canelo
6. Canelo
7. Even
8. GGG
9. GGG
10. GGG
11. GGG
12. GGG

FINAL: 117-113 (or *116-113 if you want to give Canelo round 1)

One thing I will say, this should have at worst been a Draw. Scoring the last round for Canelo got him the win and he CLEARLY lost that round.

Thoughts on Trilogy
I believe both fighters are not the same. GGG has slowed down and I think Canelo has as well.

Canelo fought the entire fight in this rematch and since then, he's given away lots of rounds against lesser opponents in hopes to catch them, which he has. Blame it on the weight or whatever else, but at the end of the day his output is less and he's looking to do more counters than set up shots with output. Canelo having to drop weight can only hurt him so it's really hard to pick a winner. Canelo definitely gets hit more now than he has in fights prior to GGG.

GGG still fights the entire fight, but his punches are slower, not as accurate as they once were, and maybe gets hit a little more.

As always, if it goes to the cards, Cleneloterol will always have the advantage unless he loses 10-2 which I'm not sure GGG can do a 10-2.

I remember that first round. I think when I watched it again, I slid it toward Canelo for the more effective punches. However, looking at my scorecard, I gave that round too Golovkin. Actually, I'll post my scorecard and see how it compares.

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	Final Score
Saúl Álvarez	9	10	9	9	9	10	10	9	9	9	10	9	112
Gennady Golovkin	10	9	10	10	10	9	9	10	10	10	10	10	117

Round 1: Both guys trying to get the jab going. Canelo landed a couple more clean punches than Golovkin, esp. at the very beginning.

Round 2: So close. Almost impossible to pick a winner. I score it for Canelo because of the combination counters. He edged it by a fraction. Plus, Alvarez was pushing GGG back. Sneaky hook to Golovkins face, left bright red mark.

Round 3: First round easy to score. GGG landed the harder punches and more of them. He also backed up Canelo more than Canelo backed him up. (Commentators shocked he’s not waking Canelo down the whole time. But GGG is going backward to not allow Canelo to get in range. GGG is controlling distance. Not backing away.)

Round 4: Canelo landed some good shots but GGG landed better. He also landed more. First adjustment by GGG, turning Alvarez.

Round 5: First blood drawn by GGG. Cut above Canelo’s left eye. He pushed GGG back a lot. Great weaving by Canelo to get inside and past GGG’s jab. But GGG out landed Canelo with clean, effective punches, getting some uppercuts in and avoiding Canelo’s quick counters more often than not.

Round 6: Canelo rallied here to a shaky beginning. Put great combos on GGG to take the round.

Round 7: GGG outworked Canelo. It was competitive the first half but second half GGG actually started landing Combos. For GGG this round goes. Was clear at the end.

Round 8: Canelo landed the flashier punches. His left eye started to really bleed, however. Also, he touched the ropes for the first time. GGG started to back him up and landed more scoring blows than Canelo.

Round 9: Dominant round for GGG. CANELO had a small rally but GGG took it in the end.

Round 10: GGG landed to vicious uppercuts in a row. Canelo then counters GGG. GGG landed the old on-two and shook Canelo. Too hurt to retaliate, he backs up onto the ropes. (Not even half the round has elapsed) Canelo’s recovery time is amazing. GGG is out working Canelo but Canelo puts it on. But GGG comes back and bloodies Canelo’s nose. Clear round for GGG. His strongest so far.

Round 11: for the first time Canelo is up against the ropes like he was in the first. Something happened in the last round and it’s no longer the same Canelo. His defense is gone. He’s getting pieced up. Canelo rallied back at the end but not enough to win it.

Round 12: GGG starts strong. First thirty seconds it’s GGG. Combos with a vicious uppercut. Canelo is pushing him back as GGG tries to maintain range. Canelo landed a couple nice shots. But GGG can’t miss with his uppercut. He landed if five times this round and through it five times. Hit every time. GGG bleeding from his left eye but was caused by a head butt. GGG came in head first, so it was his fault but still accidental.

[Toscano]

You have to school Canelo to get a split or a close decision like Floyd and Bivol.

Canelo UD