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  • #41
    Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post

    He beat better competition at 140 compared to Crawford though?
    Did he? What’s his best win Matthysse? Postol stopped him in fairness. I’d say it’s a lot closer than people think opposition wise. Crawford also became undisputed and lineal, he definitely had the better run at 140 IMO.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

      Anyone who becomes a lineal champion makes history, bro. Very few actually do.

      Danny Swift became lineal when he beat Khan, who was lineal. That was arguably his biggest win next to Matthysse.

      Some of you guys need to stop trying to rewrite history.
      Once the real champ retires or moves up without losing. The lineage is broken. So history re writes itself at that point.

      Danny didn't beat the man that beat the man that beat the man in the first place to become lineal.
      so miss me with that bro.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

        Shouldn't have to do this for you.

        The man is in a regional Hall of Fame.

        https://tselgh.com/en/about/hall-of-fame.html
        IBHOF is the only one that matters man. Those regional ones don’t mean sh**. I was a Quartey fan back in the day but he wasn’t a HOF’er.

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        • #44
          Danny became Lineal when he beat Matthysse not Khan for reference guys. That was #1 vs #2 so was considered to be for the vacant lineal title. Danny vs Khan was for the Ring title but not the lineal title.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
            Garcia is better than he is getting a credit for. he actually beat all relevant guys at 140 at some point. Crawford than won the belts Garcia vacated.
            It's just that he fell short at 147 against all the top guys. Granted, he was very competitive with Thurman and Porter as those were close fights. The Spence fight he lost easily but there is no shame in that.

            He's fighting Benavidez who was also once a 140 and 147 pounder so it's a good fight for his debut at 154. I still don't see him winning a title against the likes of Charlo, Castano, Tszyu, Fundora etc. But hey, let's see what we can do once he gets his shot.

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            • #46
              Danny is best Garcia, much better than that little b_tch Mike everybody slobs about. But Garcia reminds be of 90's Oba Carr, good but not good enough to beat the belt holders, both have suffered the same fate. Good not great.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                Danny became Lineal when he beat Matthysse not Khan for reference guys. That was #1 vs #2 so was considered to be for the vacant lineal title. Danny vs Khan was for the Ring title but not the lineal title.
                He who held The Ring was widely considered as lineal champion. NSB is the only org that disagrees with this, but it's always been the case.

                The Ring follows the same criteria that even crold1 and everyone else has declared: Champion #1 and Champion #2 fight, and the winner is lineal. The Ring grants the belt when those two fight. That means you can treat whoever holds the Ring as lineal.

                When Danny Swift and Khan fought, Khan was 140 #1 and Swift was 140 #2.

                https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/D..._vs._Amir_Khan

                dannygarcialineal2.png


                That means when Swift beat Khan, he became lineal champion.




                You're quoting Wikipedia - which has already been debunked. Notice the dark highlight, bottom right. It's not credible.

                dannygarcialineal.png



                I get it - you all hate Amir Khan. The man was #1 at 140 when Swift beat him. Swift became lineal when he beat him because Swift was #2.

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                • #48
                  I like Danny a lot. He won me over with that win over Matthysse.
                  He was a very good 140lb fighter.
                  A decent 147lb fighter.
                  But, he will be an average 154lb fighter.
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post

                    He who held The Ring was widely considered as lineal champion. NSB is the only org that disagrees with this, but it's always been the case.

                    The Ring follows the same criteria that even crold1 and everyone else has declared: Champion #1 and Champion #2 fight, and the winner is lineal. The Ring grants the belt when those two fight. That means you can treat whoever holds the Ring as lineal.

                    When Danny Swift and Khan fought, Khan was 140 #1 and Swift was 140 #2.

                    https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/D..._vs._Amir_Khan

                    dannygarcialineal2.png


                    That means when Swift beat Khan, he became lineal champion.




                    You're quoting Wikipedia - which has already been debunked. Notice the dark highlight, bottom right. It's not credible.

                    dannygarcialineal.png



                    I get it - you all hate Amir Khan. The man was #1 at 140 when Swift beat him. Swift became lineal when he beat him because Swift was #2.
                    The RING diverged itself from being a true lineal title when it allowed for rank 2 vs rank 5 to be eligible for its title. Lineal titles should always be 1 vs 2, but that’s not what the RING has done since 2012. It has recently changed to allowing 1 vs 3 for its title, which is still divergent

                    Amir Khan had just lost a fight prior to fighting Danny so his ranking was questionable. Garcia became the consensus lineal champion after beating Matthysse
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      Did he? What’s his best win Matthysse? Postol stopped him in fairness. I’d say it’s a lot closer than people think opposition wise. Crawford also became undisputed and lineal, he definitely had the better run at 140 IMO.
                      Danny beat a healthier Khan, Peterson, Matthyse, and he schooled the **** out of Madianna

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