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  • billeau2
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    #41
    Originally posted by Leicesterage

    Szpilka. Until he stopped moving. Looked like a prime Ali in there.

    Only difference with Sanchez is that he wouldn't stop moving.
    Its a fair point, but for a puncher? they are allowed 11 minutes and 60 seconds (lol). So for example we have this fight:


    Shannon did it with one second to spare lol.

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      #42
      Originally posted by deathofaclown

      It’s not about who’s better

      its just I’ve not seen a single thing in Sanchez against him limited opposition that makes me believe he could knock out any decent version of Wilder. Sanchez would play it extremely safe.
      You’re moving goal posts now you said Sanchez couldn’t put a dent in Hammer as though it reflects this fight and ignored he took that fight on 3 days notice anyway , you literally brought up Furys fight that’s the first thing you posted showing he had a better performance ?

      Everyone knows Hammer doesn’t come to win he’s mastered the art of fighting in a turtle shell riding shots to make it to the end of a fight , if Wilder did that he’d get sparked out because he’s terrible at reacting on the defense so it’s just a silly Angle to use anyway . His best fight was actually against Ortiz he nearly dropped him so using who did better doesn’t really mean much fight to fight .

      Most people on this thread know Sanchez should win against Wilder just go through the comments but most have picked Wilder and just by odds of him landing a solid shot inside the 12 rounds he has the time to do it . Anyone claiming it’s a easy fight with a predetermined outcome however is only kidding themselves .

      Fury stopping Hammer while Sanchez didn’t literally has zero relevance here as most fights do and that’s what you posted basically that was your post go look I think the consensus is Sanchez would win by decision if he did so no one’s actually arguing he needs to knockout Wilder to win .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 06-29-2022, 01:59 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        You’re moving goal posts now you said Sanchez couldn’t put a dent in Hammer as though it reflects this fight and ignored he took that fight on 3 days notice anyway , you literally brought up Furys fight that’s the first thing you posted showing he had a better performance ?

        Everyone knows Hammer doesn’t come to win he’s mastered the art of fighting in a turtle shell riding shots to make it to the end of a fight , if Wilder did that he’d get sparked out because he’s terrible at reacting on the defense so it’s just a silly Angle to use anyway . His best fight was actually against Ortiz he nearly dropped him so using who did better doesn’t really mean much fight to fight .

        Most people on this thread know Sanchez should win against Wilder just go through the comments but most have picked Wilder and just by odds of him landing a solid shot inside the 12 rounds he has the time to do it . Anyone claiming it’s a easy fight with a predetermined outcome however is only kidding themselves .

        Fury stopping Hammer while Sanchez didn’t literally has zero relevance here as most fights do and that’s what you posted basically that was your post go look I think the consensus is Sanchez would win by decision if he did so no one’s actually arguing he needs to knockout Wilder to win .
        either way. I’ve seen enough of Sanchez to know he wouldn’t have the ability or minerals to put Wilder onto his heels and go for the stoppage.

        Could he outbox Wilder? Yeah, No doubt. But Wilder is always very good at closing range fast and landing right hands unless you can push him backwards, which Sanchez wouldn’t or couldn’t do. So trying to simply outbox him is always a risk.

        I’d give Sanchez next to no chance at stopping Wilder, that’s all I said. He hasn’t got the tools or mentality to implement the even more risky style required to do so.

        Well that’s assuming Wilder is the same fighter which is unlikely. Fury took a lot out of him, I’m sure.

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          #44
          Originally posted by billeau2

          Its a fair point, but for a puncher? they are allowed 11 minutes and 60 seconds (lol). So for example we have this fight:


          Shannon did it with one second to spare lol.
          Levels. Briggs fought very few skilled boxers. He certainly fought few guys who had the actual skill of Frank Sanchez.

          Wilder eventually caught Fury in the first fight because Fury stopped moving BUT wasn't fighting back at that point. He couldn't do the same against Fury who went after him.

          You'd basically see Sanchez do to Wilder what Joshua did to Ruiz in the rematch. That's what it would be. All night long.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Leicesterage

            Levels. Briggs fought very few skilled boxers. He certainly fought few guys who had the actual skill of Frank Sanchez.

            Wilder eventually caught Fury in the first fight because Fury stopped moving BUT wasn't fighting back at that point. He couldn't do the same against Fury who went after him.

            You'd basically see Sanchez do to Wilder what Joshua did to Ruiz in the rematch. That's what it would be. All night long.
            Yeah but the point about a puncher missing. If a puncher finds a way and incapacitates their opponent, they made the adjustments, found a way to land enough times that they won. Keeping in mind that less rounds are a detriment for a puncher, and seeing Wilder's KO % its a bit misleading to give a guy credit for making him wiff when he won. I would go so far as to give Bermaine Stiverne credit for not being Koed...

            I gave you Briggs because it is a perfect example of this principle.

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              #46
              Originally posted by billeau2

              Yeah but the point about a puncher missing. If a puncher finds a way and incapacitates their opponent, they made the adjustments, found a way to land enough times that they won. Keeping in mind that less rounds are a detriment for a puncher, and seeing Wilder's KO % its a bit misleading to give a guy credit for making him wiff when he won. I would go so far as to give Bermaine Stiverne credit for not being Koed...

              I gave you Briggs because it is a perfect example of this principle.
              Re: the bold...

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              But Stiverne stood right in front of Wilder.

              People who don't/can't move, get sparked by Wilder.

              People who KEEP moving, survive.


              It's that simple with Deontay. Notice: he's never - EVER - fought someone with good lateral movement. Frank Sanchez is exactly that. Szpilka WAS that - until he stopped moving.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Leicesterage

                Re: the bold...

                bfIgIqD.jpg

                But Stiverne stood right in front of Wilder.

                People who don't/can't move, get sparked by Wilder.

                People who KEEP moving, survive.


                It's that simple with Deontay. Notice: he's never - EVER - fought someone with good lateral movement. Frank Sanchez is exactly that. Szpilka WAS that - until he stopped moving.
                Actually in their first fight Stiverne lasted the distance. Thats the fight to which I was referring. Regarding your other comment, welcome to a weak heavyweight division! Wilder has fought the people who others have fought. Ortiz moves fairly well, though not like a great fighter. People who cannot move well are inferior fighters in general.

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                  #48
                  No way this old dude (no way he is 28-30 ) is on Fury's and Fury in top form still got dropped by Wilder. I got money Sanchez doesn't have Fury's punch resistance. Wilder knocks this fool out after a tune up.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    Actually in their first fight Stiverne lasted the distance. Thats the fight to which I was referring.
                    He only lasted the distance because Stiverne was a master at the double leg take down from MMA and Tony Weeks had no sense of control.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Leicesterage

                      He only lasted the distance because Stiverne was a master at the double leg take down from MMA and Tony Weeks had no sense of control.

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                      Maybe so... Just saying that at the end of the day Wilder has been succesful at winning with the big shot.

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