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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
U did but whatever believe your new lies
I'm a huge Canelo soooo
I'm still waiting for You to provide the Post where I said said GGG would Ko him....
Still waiting......
You need glasses & stop replying to the wrong guys on the comments
Also You need to really grow up!
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I wouldn't be surprised at anything. I remember meeting Mayweather and he acted nothing like his persona on camera. He was incredibly decent, polite and personable. I asked for a picture and he had his girlfriend take the shot with my phone, he then offered to take it again if the picture wasn't any good.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostJesus, do you come up with some gems. GGG is a fraud because he ducked Lara and Ward?? You post a hell of a lot, but how long have you actually been following this sport? If you want to pretend that GGG was skillfully managed and avoided fighters, then at least name someone in his own fcking division who he supposedly ducked. GGG fought his entire career up through 40 yrs old at MW and he beat the piss out of every guy who had the balls to get in the ring with him coming up. Tell us about the MWs he ducked. The list of MWs who ducked him (including Canelo for a good stretch) is fairly long. I'm a Canelo fan as well, but, IMO, GGG should have one loss on his record and that's against Deryvanchenko.
he ducked (in order) ...
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous..... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
then, a few months after totally refusing to drop a single pound for the SUPERSTAR Cotto.... Golovkin publicly stated that he is willing to fight at 154, but nobody will step up LOOOOOOOOOL.... you cannot make that shlt up LMAO
here is the proof....
https://********/QbCninJFg4s
4) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
5) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
6) Charlo - they said that fight " made no sense ".... despite the fact that Charlo was a champion.... despite the fact that Golovkin does not have a career-defining fight, or a signature win, on his ordinary resume...., and despite the fact that Charlo would be either the best, or the second-best win on his resume
7) Andrade - they said that fight " made no sense ".... despite the fact that Andrade was a champion.... despite the fact that Golovkin does not have a career-defining fight, or a signature win, on his ordinary resume...., and despite the fact that Andrade would be either the best, or the second-best win on his resume
I hope that helped fill in the blanks in your ridiculously shocking memory
stop being ridiculous dude, have some fkn pride.... Golovkin promised the world that he would fight Ward at 168, and Cotto/Canelo and 154.... and then, he killed ALL of those fights over weight LMAO
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
he ducked (in order) ...
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous..... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
then, a few months after totally refusing to drop a single pound for the SUPERSTAR Cotto.... Golovkin publicly stated that he is willing to fight at 154, but nobody will step up LOOOOOOOOOL.... you cannot make that shlt up LMAO
here is the proof....
https://********/QbCninJFg4s
4) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
5) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
6) Charlo - they said that fight " made no sense ".... despite the fact that Charlo was a champion.... despite the fact that Golovkin does not have a career-defining fight, or a signature win, on his ordinary resume...., and despite the fact that Charlo would be either the best, or the second-best win on his resume
7) Andrade - they said that fight " made no sense ".... despite the fact that Andrade was a champion.... despite the fact that Golovkin does not have a career-defining fight, or a signature win, on his ordinary resume...., and despite the fact that Andrade would be either the best, or the second-best win on his resume
I hope that helped fill in the blanks in your ridiculously shocking memory
stop being ridiculous dude, have some fkn pride.... Golovkin promised the world that he would fight Ward at 168, and Cotto/Canelo and 154.... and then, he killed ALL of those fights over weight LMAO
....- Sergio Mora? Not even the Latin Snake himself could read that with a straight face.
- Erislandy Lara? He moved up to middleweight last year (2021). Again, tell me guys who he ducked in his own weight class.
- Andre Ward? Ward's last fight at SMW was in 2013. He didn't fight for a year and a half after that because of shoulder surgery and a protracted lawsuit. According to GGG, HBO first proposed a fight between them in late 2013, but Ward's side said no, ostensibly due to his shoulder and mgmt circumstance. Ward's side then called out GGG in 2015 right as moved up to LHW. Again, call him a ***** if you want, but you don't duck guys two weight classes above you.
- BJS? WTF is wrong with your mind? BJS' own wife and kids know what would happen if BJS ever fought GGG. A beat down way worse than Canelo gave him. When exactly did GGG supposedly duck BJS, in your mind? You seem to suggest it was when GGG fought Vanes in May 2018. GGG was supposed to fight the Canelo rematch in May 2018, but Canelo got busted for PEDs so GGG took a stay-busy fight with Vanes until Canelo came off suspension, and the rematch was fought in Sept 2018. Saunders's, the fat fck that he is, only fought once in 2018, at LHW against no-hoper Charles Adamu.
- Derevyanchenko? Check his record. They fought. I thought Derevyanchenko got screwed.
- Charlo????? You are the only person on this site who gives credibility to a Charlo calling out anyone. Your argument that GGG ducked Charlo is based on the fact that GGG has not fought Charlo yet. That's it. GGG, of course, has bigger fish to fry (namely Canelo), but that's not the reason those guys haven't fought. The reason, as you must know, is a network issue. GGG is contracted to Matchroom/DAZN and Charlo with PBC.
- Cotto??? Everybody knows that Cotto and Canelo shamelessly ducked GGG with their catchweight non-sense. I don't even blame Cotto because his true weight was 140-147, not even at his best as a blown-up JMW. He moved up to MW to take on a broken Sergio Martinez, then scurried back down to 154 when Canelo schooled him in a "almost-MW" championship fight.
Last edited by NachoMan; 06-30-2022, 12:50 PM.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
You've lost your mind, brother. The ONLY guy I on that list that could be argued got ducked is Andrade. GGG was hell bent on getting that Canelo rematch, so I understand that priority., The other ones are beyond laughable.- Sergio Mora? Not even the Latin Snake himself could read that with a straight face.
- Erislandy Lara? He moved up to middleweight last year (2021). Again, tell me guys who he ducked in his own weight class.
- Andre Ward? Ward's last fight at SMW was in 2013. He didn't fight for a year and a half after that because of shoulder surgery and a protracted lawsuit. According to GGG, HBO first proposed a fight between them in late 2013, but Ward's side said no, ostensibly due to his shoulder and mgmt circumstance. Ward's side then called out GGG in 2015 right as moved up to LHW. Again, call him a ***** if you want, but you don't duck guys two weight classes above you.
- BJS? WTF is wrong with your mind? BJS' own wife and kids know what would happen if BJS ever fought GGG. A beat down way worse than Canelo gave him. When exactly did GGG supposedly duck BJS, in your mind? You seem to suggest it was when GGG fought Vanes in May 2018. GGG was supposed to fight the Canelo rematch in May 2018, but Canelo got busted for PEDs so GGG took a stay-busy fight with Vanes until Canelo came off suspension, and the rematch was fought in Sept 2018. Saunders's, the fat fck that he is, only fought once in 2018, at LHW against no-hoper Charles Adamu.
- Derevyanchenko? Check his record. They fought. I thought Derevyanchenko got screwed.
- Charlo????? You are the only person on this site who gives credibility to a Charlo calling out anyone. Your argument that GGG ducked Charlo is based on the fact that GGG has not fought Charlo yet. That's it. GGG, of course, has bigger fish to fry (namely Canelo), but that's not the reason those guys haven't fought. The reason, as you must know, is a network issue. GGG is contracted to Matchroom/DAZN and Charlo with PBC.
- Cotto??? Everybody knows that Cotto and Canelo shamelessly ducked GGG with their catchweight non-sense. I don't even blame Cotto because his true weight was 140-147, not even at his best as a blown-up JMW. He moved up to MW to take on a broken Sergio Martinez, then scurried back down to 154 when Canelo schooled him in a "almost-MW" championship fight.
you are just another Bumkin fanboy, blurting out how much you wuv him.... heard it all before
BEFORE shht got real:
October 2014
Ring TV.com: If you could, for a moment, could you specifically address the notion of fighting Andre Ward and/or Miguel Cotto or Canelo Alvarez?
Gennady Golovkin: I have big respect for Andre Ward. He has accomplished many things in the ring. My focus is to fight at middleweight unless there is a big fight at 154 or 168 that would be on pay-per-view. I think both Canelo and Cotto are warriors in the ring. They both have big hearts and both would be a big event and pay-per-view fights.
https://www.ring tv.com/362749-gennady-golovkin-puts-miguel-cotto-atop-his-wish-list/
AFTER shht got real:
October 2015
"Cotto-Canelo takes place at a catch-weight of 155-pounds. Canelo has never fought above 155. Cotto has never fought at the full middleweight limit. He fought Daniel Geale at 157 and Sergio Martinez at 159. Cotto stated in past interviews that all of his future opponents would be subject to a catch-weight.....
"I'm champion of 160, middleweight is my comfortable weight. For what [reason would I do a catch-weight]? For business or for what? I'm a boxer. I'm the champion of the middleweight division," Golovkin said."
http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-...-canelo--97113
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