Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Not Sure What Deontay Wilder Has Left in The Tank

[Slip jab]

I know you guys are still around, but I also understand, with great regret and anger, that you’re getting ****ed on life outcomes re: mortality, sanitation, and the like, as a community on a national scale, or so the stats say.

Maybe where you’re at you’re not so bad off materially and life’s decent I hope, at least.

More power to you and full solidarity either way, brother

Yeah I get it n I agree. Reservations lack infrastructure that ultimately leads to socio--economical n social issues imo. Personally I'm in a nice environment, urban area looking to buy a house so I'm on the up n up but my reservation is in a crisis with a missing ppl. Actually there's a boxer from there too, Billy Wagner, his brother went missing months ago while he was preparing for a fight on ESPN actually. And my cousin went missing which sparked the MMIP(missing murdered indigenous ppl)0

[billeau2]

Ortiz was an OK win (the first time) but for a guy of wilders age who was a champ as long as him to have one good win is kind of pathetic.

Put it this way in 20 years time if we want to go back and watch the classic Wilder fights it will be 3x losses to fury and that's it.

That's not even hate it's just the unfortunate truth when it comes to Wilder. It's also his own fault as Wlad was sounding him out for a fight before the fury fight, and Wilder said no thanks

Well... lets see if he comes back. His age is not so great for a heavyweight...

[P to the J]

Yeah I get it n I agree. Reservations lack infrastructure that ultimately leads to socio--economical n social issues imo. Personally I'm in a nice environment, urban area looking to buy a house so I'm on the up n up but my reservation is in a crisis with a missing ppl. Actually there's a boxer from there too, Billy Wagner, his brother went missing months ago while he was preparing for a fight on ESPN actually. And my cousin went missing which sparked the MMIP(missing murdered indigenous ppl)0

Well serious good luck to you, man.

Yo, I’m sorry to hear about your cousin though. Will do some reading on MMIP cos what you’re telling me is the first I’m hearing about it.

Guessing, from first glance, it’s about slow, non-existent, or outright hostile institutional response to the welfare of indigenous people?

[Slip jab]

Well serious good luck to you, man.

Yo, I’m sorry to hear about your cousin though. Will do some reading on MMIP cos what you’re telling me is the first I’m hearing about it.

Guessing, from first glance, it’s about slow, non-existent, or outright hostile institutional response to the welfare of indigenous people?

U hit the nail on the head. The response wasn't adequate. Search parties were made up of volunteers. Only until the cries couldn't be ignored bigger agencies experienced in missing persons cases became involved, like a year after she went missing. It's super sad

[P to the J]

U hit the nail on the head. The response wasn't adequate. Search parties were made up of volunteers. Only until the cries couldn't be ignored bigger agencies experienced in missing persons cases became involved, like a year after she went missing. It's super sad

You know what, it’s ****ing atrocious mate. This whole forum will be hoping you get some good news out of it, ofc.

This thing you’re describing - I’m reluctant to describe it as a “phenomenon” because real people are involved in making these decisions - is somewhat familiar, albeit on a lesser scale (I think?)

In the UK, we see state agencies paying less attention to POC in terms of missing people, víctims of crime. And obviously, highly negative outcomes in healthcare, child mortality, etc. Saw it in the 20th century treatment of Irish people on these shores too. That’s the only reason I guessed what you might have been referring to.

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Wilder can get ready and if he is mental OK, I have him beating all heavyweights except Tyson Fury.

I also believe he can knock out Usyk and Joshua.

But that is a big IF. Nobody knows how much has he left in tank.

I guess we must see him at least against top 20 guy to be sure. Helenius would be great for a start.

[Slip jab]

The Native American culture has been all but wiped out. Those that are left are either doing what they can to hold on to whatever culture that they have left or are doing whatever they can to assimilate with Whites. This is what happens when an area becomes colonized. Blacks in America will face the same fate as Native Americans.

Yes ur correct. As natives were very assimilated to modern culture. Perfect choice of word: assimilated

[Slip jab]

You know what, it’s ****ing atrocious mate. This whole forum will be hoping you get some good news out of it, ofc.

This thing you’re describing - I’m reluctant to describe it as a “phenomenon” because real people are involved in making these decisions - is somewhat familiar, albeit on a lesser scale (I think?)

In the UK, we see state agencies paying less attention to POC in terms of missing people, víctims of crime. And obviously, highly negative outcomes in healthcare, child mortality, etc. Saw it in the 20th century treatment of Irish people on these shores too. That’s the only reason I guessed what you might have been referring to.

It's a **** show on my rez. The blackfeet reservation in Montana. It's located on 2 counties adjacent to each other n so we have jurisdictional issues which agencies have jurisdiction over certain cases. . my town is on pondera county while 20 miles north is Glacier. E ach county gas their own sheriff's that patrol n we also have tribal authorities that patrol the rez. I don't think these agencies even know who would preside over what. We also have feds all over, FBI and BIA(bereau of Indian affairs)
nobody wants to step on each other's toes

[P to the J]

It's a **** show on my rez. The blackfeet reservation in Montana. It's located on 2 counties adjacent to each other n so we have jurisdictional issues which agencies have jurisdiction over certain cases. . my town is on pondera county while 20 miles north is Glacier. E ach county gas their own sheriff's that patrol n we also have tribal authorities that patrol the rez. I don't think these agencies even know who would preside over what. We also have feds all over, FBI and BIA(bereau of Indian affairs)
nobody wants to step on each other's toes

Ah, bureaucracy into the mix as well, huh? ****ing losers

[F l i c k e r]

Wilder likely has enough to beat anyone not named Tyson Fury.

I don't think any of the heavies could do to Tyson what Wilder did and also endure what Wilder did.

AJ? F.uck no. He's going to sleep in 4.

Usyk? No. Too small to endure that kind of brawl.

Ruiz? No. Same as Usyk and a smaller gas tank than Wilder.

Any other heavy is just a random generated boxer.

So I think Wilder could easily come back, use his experience from the Fury fights to smash the heavyweight landscape. Those guys aren't going to battle like how Fury and Wilder did. Unless Fury absolutely ruined Wilder, which is possible in this game.