Pacquiao would have never beaten Floyd.

[Quiksilva]

Prob reason why Money dodged Prime Pac eh?

Waited for him to be drained until fighting him in 2015, they were both way past their primes... and Pac got knocked out by JMM in the 4th fight too.

[QueensburyRules]

Prob reason why Money dodged Prime Pac eh?

Waited for him to be drained until fighting him in 2015, they were both way past their primes... and Pac got knocked out by JMM in the 4th fight too.

- - TBE TUE 51-0 never fought BALCO Juan any more than he made weight in their first fight.

Orchestrated MGM career fighter is all he'll ever be.

[djtmal]

Let the Manny cum gurgling stans tell it, Manny could’ve beaten Floyd all the times he turned the fight down.

Does that make sense to anyone rational?

Why not just take the test and beat Floyd? Why not take the $40 mil and beat Floyd? Why not refuse the fake stitches from Bob’s son in law and beat Floyd?

Always an excuse for not taking the fight. Excuses when he loses the fight. Do what Floyd, Bivol or Haney did- take a crap deal and prove your better in the ring. That’s what a man would do.

His nickname should be the excusetioner. Every loss or duck comes with an excuse.

The other thing the cum gurgling stans do is never hold him accountable for his turning the fight down. They blame Floyd because he didn’t give Manny what he wanted.

So what? Manny is beneath Floyd in every way. He was the challenger. The #2. The fight was going to be on his terms. Manny fans seem to think he had to be treated like a star. Nope he got treated like a foreign challenger.

Manny held out and in the end got exactly what he wanted- a massive payday to cruise to a loss.

Don't blame Manny fans because Floyd didn't want to risk losing. He had the same advantages in height and reach in 2009 that he had in 2015, but the one intangible he lacked was courage.

It isn't just Manny fans that thought he was scared people all over thought he was scared.

It was Floyd's fight to make and truth is he didn't make it until he felt the risk was at its lowest. His whole welterweight career was manufactured in this fashion. He was able to make every other fight but when it comes to Manny the excuses were harder to keep up with every year.

Then the fight itself was nothing to brag about. It was two past prime guys fighting like two guys past their prime. It definitely is one of Floyd's worst performances right up there when he stunk up the joint with Carlos Baldymir. He gets credit for making the money though.

[War Room]

Don't blame Manny fans because Floyd didn't want to risk losing. He had the same advantages in height and reach in 2009 that he had in 2015, but the one intangible he lacked was courage.

It isn't just Manny fans that thought he was scared people all over thought he was scared.

It was Floyd's fight to make and truth is he didn't make it until he felt the risk was at its lowest. His whole welterweight career was manufactured in this fashion. He was able to make every other fight but when it comes to Manny the excuses were harder to keep up with every year.

Then the fight itself was nothing to brag about. It was two past prime guys fighting like two guys past their prime. It definitely is one of Floyd's worst performances right up there when he stunk up the joint with Carlos Baldymir. He gets credit for making the money though.

False false false! Manny and Top Rank knew they could never beat Floyd and stalled for years. Proof with 238 sources. Look at the dates!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/31424810-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-complete-238-sources

[djtmal]

False false false! Manny and Top Rank knew they could never beat Floyd and stalled for years. Proof with 238 sources. Look at the dates!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...te-238-sources

Well all you need for Floyd is the one video where he said he was a rich coward and you can see how scared he was of Manny.

Petrified.

[War Room]

Well all you need for Floyd is the one video where he said he was a rich coward and you can see how scared he was of Manny.

Petrified.

238 sources, look at the dates or beat it. Manny's entire career was guided by matchmaker Bruce Trampler. You're just not a smart person to ignore the type of facts presented.

[djtmal]

238 sources, look at the dates or beat it. Manny's entire career was guided by matchmaker Bruce Trampler. You're just not a smart person to ignore the type of facts presented.

Floyds body language when he cried about how Manny handled Cotto is all that is needed in this matter

[War Room]

Floyds body language when he cried about how Manny handled Cotto is all that is needed in this matter

Worst troll. Try troll college.

[djtmal]

Worst troll. Try troll college.

Dude there are facts on both sides of the fence. You can't dismiss Floyd on video crying and b::ching up for the world to see.

Hell Srl was scared of Hagler look how long it took him to grow a pair and make the fight.

Don't worry Floyd isn't the first guy to stall a fight

[ELPacman]

No reason to debate mystical outcomes. Floyd could fight Manny during his peak but decided to wait him out. Both men lost speed and explosiveness by 2015 but Floyd retain his superior height and size to neutralize Manny.

Thank you for putting this up in a very short, neat, able to understand for the Fraud fans summary.

I'll always maintain, prime for prime, Pac had too much energy and offense to let up on Fraud. He would of outscored/outpunched him on energy level alone. The Fraud-Pac fight that took place was perfect for Fraud's necessary pace to win a fight. Let's also remember a great defensive usually beats a great offensive when they're out of their primes and older. Great offense requires youth and energy, something that made Pac special in his prime.