Comments Thread For: Artur Beterbiev Certain To Unleash His Ferocity in Joe Smith Unification

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  • M111
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    #41
    Originally posted by NachoMan

    I think you overrate Beterbiev's boxing ability and his feet. Beterbiev is a good pressure fighter with good power and a solid chin, but he's far from being any kind of elite boxer if we can agree that an elite boxer does a lot more hitting than getting hit. Smith Jr is not going to struggle to land on Beterbiev because Beterbiev doesn't move his head well and that beard is there to hit al day long.
    400 amateur fights and amateur world champion. Highest knockout percentage of any world champion. Not elite. Err Ok. Listen to what other fighters say about him. Listen to what Bivol says about him. Almost exactly what I see. His balance is excellent. His use of lateral movement isn’t Pacquiao but his feet are deceptively quick and economic which sums up his style a lot. Wastes little. I don’t think you watch him carefully enough or if you do you don’t fully understand what you’re looking at. He’s always on balance, that’s where his power comes from. Some fighters do take one to land a harder one. Duran, Hagler to name a couple. I think his knockout percentage suggests he usually wins those types of battles so why fix what ain’t broke. I’ll be surprised if Smith see round 8.

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      #42
      Originally posted by NachoMan

      Yeah, (technically 3x) but breaking his jaw only makes him tougher. The first time he got it busted (in two spots) early against Caminero he couldn't take the pain and had to quit. The second time he took the pain for 8 rds and lost a UD to Barrera. He'll probably get it busted in the 1st round against Beterbiev, but he'll laugh it off and win by KO this time.


      https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...era/486877001/
      Not sure if this true but I heard against Caminero that it was a really bad break. Like his jaw was just dangling off his face...

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      • richardt
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        #43
        Originally posted by YoungManRumble

        Not sure if this true but I heard against Caminero that it was a really bad break. Like his jaw was just dangling off his face...
        It makes me think that Smith might be too tough for his own good. I can't imagine if I had a jaw broken like that. Serious pain.

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          #44
          Originally posted by KING S.O.G
          Let's go Joe!!!
          Where are you guys going to?

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            #45
            Originally posted by M111

            400 amateur fights and amateur world champion. Highest knockout percentage of any world champion. Not elite. Err Ok. Listen to what other fighters say about him. Listen to what Bivol says about him. Almost exactly what I see. His balance is excellent. His use of lateral movement isn’t Pacquiao but his feet are deceptively quick and economic which sums up his style a lot. Wastes little. I don’t think you watch him carefully enough or if you do you don’t fully understand what you’re looking at. He’s always on balance, that’s where his power comes from. Some fighters do take one to land a harder one. Duran, Hagler to name a couple. I think his knockout percentage suggests he usually wins those types of battles so why fix what ain’t broke. I’ll be surprised if Smith see round 8.
            I said he’s not an elite BOXER. He’s a world-class fighter and champion for a reason but it’s not because of his elite boxing abilities. He’s a good technician with excellent power and an excellent chin and physical strength, but watch him fight. He takes way too many clean shots to the mouth for anyone to call him an elite boxer. No fighter is great at everything so my comments are not meant to disparage him as a fighter. He’s clearly an excellent fighter.

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              #46
              Originally posted by richardt

              It makes me think that Smith might be too tough for his own good. I can't imagine if I had a jaw broken like that. Serious pain.
              Yeah this was the fight he had to quit on his stool due to severe pain and a double jaw fracture. It might have been exaggerated what I had originally heard but I did read an article today saying it was double fractured jaw: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-were-the-same

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              • jackblack008
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                #47
                Joe smith like to fight fire with fire and if land the eight shot can get Beterbiev down

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                • MaksBox
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                  We're going to see Joe Smith Jr. lose by TKO/KO for the first time in his career. You may have forgotten, but Bivol almost stopped Smith Jr. in the 12th round. He was lucky the bell rang.
                  Well, to be fair, Smith almost stopped bivol too.... when he caught him at the end of one of those rounds.

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                  • Yerlan T.
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by M111

                    I'll be surprised if Smith see round 8.
                    Agreed. I also think so. Already have a bet on Beterbiev KO / TKO within 9 rounds.
                    Last edited by Yerlan T.; 06-15-2022, 11:34 PM.

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                      #50
                      at 37 this might be Beterbiev's last year or could this actually be his last fight? of course he's favored but sometimes old boxers age in the ring instead outside. this fight will certainly tell us his status & if he could possibly beat Bivol...

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