Comments Thread For: Kambosos: Every Time I Tried To Exchange, Haney Held; He Did Hold A Lot

[Cypocryphy]

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All that aside, do you think Haney beats Garcia? I don’t think he beats Tank or Shakur. Or even Loma.

Oh boy. That's a good question. That is a very good question ... questions.

Garcia ... I can't answer that question just yet. I would have to go and watch film on Ryan to really see how he'd deal with certain aspects of Haney's game. I'll rewatch the Campbell fight maybe. Both Campbell and Haney are of similar size with a good jab, although Campbell is southpaw. I think that Haney would probably win unless Garcia could pressure Haney and hurt him. He's capable of doing so but I favor Haney in that matchup because Ryan is just so flatfooted at times. Anyway, if I rewatch the Campbell fight because that should answer some questions.

Shakur vs Haney would be interesting. Many believe no one beats Shakur now except maybe Loma, and that's only if Loma fights him soon. Shakur beats Haney. I have very little doubt about that. In fact, here is some sparring footage that supports that belief. They are very similar but Shakur's defense is just so much better. Shakur doesn't have to duck, shoulder and hug to avoid getting hit, for one. And he seems to have better judgment of a situations and control of distance. Better reflexes.

Now Tank is interesting. He's got the size disadvantage that Loma has with Haney, and that's a big disadvantage unless you have a ref that will keep Haney off of you. Tank has gained a lot of experience and is very good now, but he need to come forward to do his best work, and that just lets Haney pick him off with a jab and take a half step back, constantly. Or clinch if Tank gets too close, which he will, because he doesn't want to get hit by Tank. He'll clinch the hell out of Tank, and if we get a ref like the one we had for Kambosos, then Tank is doomed.

With Loma, there's a lot of questions. The Loma we saw beat Commey I think could stop Haney. But I don't know if he's the same, and I don't know how the ref will handle Haney clinching Loma. If we get a ref like last time, like with Kambosos, then Loma is going to be struggling a lot because he has to close the distance. However, both Tank and Loma are southpaws, and I've seen some things that Haney does that can really be exploited. He makes mistakes, such as ducking to his right. The kind of mistakes that if Tank sees and capitalizes on, will end Haney's night. Loma will just clown Haney But both of them have to be able to work on the inside and not be separate immediately when a clinch occurs. That would spell doom for the both of them. Haney is just a lot bigger than the both of them, so you have to have a ref that will enforce the rules as much as possible.

Anyway, that's kind of how I see it going right now. To have a really good idea, I'd have to really study a lot of film and break it down. I don't know if this answers your questions but it's the best I can say right now.

[Liondw]

That's on George not to allow him to clinch as much and not blame the ref, as the great Duran once blamed the ref in the third fight with Leonard.

He had to jab more, just as one thing he had to do more of. Haney is just a better boxer, period. I wouldn't rate Haney as well as say, Shakur, but he is slick and hard to beat from long range.

Cong**** to Devin, went to Australia and signed a three fight clause with Top Rank. It even included what seems like a rematch we don't want to see.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Kambosos was overrated from the jump...he caught Lopez at the right time & Haney was smart to accept whatever terms necessary to get him in the ring. Kambosos himself told us he was unsure of himself by all the "Art of War" nonsense and the pics he was always taking with his belts. Fact is...he's not physically strong enough, don't hit hard enough and isn't fast enough to deal with Haney, Davis, or Lomachenko. If I was on his team, I'd say "let's go get this rematch and get paid, Champ" because after that fight, not sure where he goes from there. Rematch with Lopez at 140 maybe.

And the bold is why we keep saying that it's vital for fighters to do that. Accept your B-Side status, accept ALL terms, then go in there and prove yourself.

[I Never Lied]

Styles make fights and Devin Haney is the absolute WRONG style for George. Frankly, I give George credit for taking the fight. Nobody wants to fight Devin because his jab, run and hold style is difficult to fight and not very entertaining. The fight reminded me of an ugly John Ruiz hug festival. That said, George doesn't have the jab, power or angles to take Devin off of his rhythm and for that reason I don't believe the rematch will be any different.

In the end, Devin is just a very bad style for George and always will be.

IMO, a prime Lomachanko would have been interesting but that's never going to happen.

Loma? Lol, cmon bro. Loma already ran from Haney because he knew what would happen if they fought. NO ONE can beat Haney's style

[I Never Lied]

Everyone and their grandmother's know how Haney fights. You had to train to negate his jab,and handle his clinching,and catch him when he bends at the waist. You did none of the above. How do you cancel out his jab? Fight him at close range,and rip him to the body. Use your left glove to catch the jab,and shoot the right hand down the pipe. Keep your head off the center line and give him angles. How do you handle his clinching? Take a step back and pop a jab in his face when he comes in. Keep your elbows tucked so that he can't hook under your armpits. How do you handle the bending over? Watch how canelo broke billy Joe saunders face with the uppercut. I am in no way shape or form and expert,yet I can come up with a better gameplay than these professionals. It seems like they never watched a Haney fight before,and simply hoped for the best.

You need hella skills to put this all together, especially if this is not how you normally fight. Kambosos is not at that skill level.

[Realizniguhnit]

Last time I checked this sport was called boxing, not exchange..

[SUBZER0ED]

He punched and then hugged, dummy. It´s like if Kambosos would have hugged after he hit Haney....

STFU. Kambosos had opportunities to punch too, but was afraid of Haney's counters and couldn't avoid his jab. And he was just too slow on the draw. Haney didn't always hug him. The Spartan got beat, deal with it.

[Boxing2695]

I wish you would all say that when Golovkin won the 2nd fight against Cinnamon.

I did have him winning...

[eco1]

I did have him winning...

Me too, Golovkin won both fights.

[Blond Beast]

Really it's your fault for not having a plan to deal with the holding and ducking. Haney showed nothing that we haven't seen before and showed everything we have seen before, so I dunno what Kambosos's strategy was.

Well put. Wild and sloppy Lopez didn’t get Kambosos’s ready for a disciplined and sharp Haney. Kambosos’s didn’t have the idea or maybe the coaching to know he had to do something different vs Haney. Sometimes you have to understand why maybe you are the underdog. Doesn’t mean you don’t have heart, skill or toughness. Sometimes it’s just a bad style matchup. Kambosos can complain all he wants be he never made it a brawl or took the fight to Haney. He didn’t jab, or push forward. He tried to time his shots and he missed spectacularly more times than landing big.
Haney gets too much hate. Winning is everything in boxing. He’s still young. He may never be a huge star, but he will be a tough nut to crack. He’s still way more likeable than Shakur Stevenson.