Comments Thread For: Kambosos: Every Time I Tried To Exchange, Haney Held; He Did Hold A Lot

[eco1]

Man what you talking about haney outlanded in 9 of the 12 rounds and busted him up with a jab yeah it's not the most entertaining but it's effective and wins you big fights.

I wish you would all say that when Golovkin won the 2nd fight against Cinnamon.

[budfr]

Finally someone mentions the hugging !!!! That is how Floyd Mayweather won most of his fights, and that is how most African-American boxers win nowadays. The referees are so scared of deducting points ( instinctively afraid of being called racists ), that they let them do that the entire fight, like in a wrestling match. They even hug after they land the punch so the oppponent canīt punch back !!!! Imagine in a judo match, allowing fighters to punch!! This needs to stop, other boxers and fans are getting tired of this nonsense. Soon averyone will start doing it....jab, obtain a point, hug, run...jab, a point, hug, run...etc. There should be an amount of hugs per round ( 2 ) after that, itīs a point deduction, after that, disqualification.

[budfr]

Haney's jab neutralized anything that Kambsos wanted to do. A 2nd fight won't matter, it will be the same results. Haney has too much skill for Kambosos. Boring or not. Unfortunately all BOXERS are not going to go to the middle of the ring and swing for the fences. The goal is to hit and not be it. The excuses always come out post fight. It's to be expected.

The goal is to fight.....hugging like a coward is not boxing. Start watching wrestling or MMA.

[budfr]

So, was Haney also holding when he was punching you in the face and gut? You could almost see that jab coming, with the way Devin stepped forward rapidly with his left foot.

He punched and then hugged, dummy. Itīs like if Kambosos would have hugged after he hit Haney....

[budfr]

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You make a compelling argument and both video clips are pretty good in how they analyze both fights.
That said, I find it very hard to separate the word dirty and cheating. If it was any other sport, I would have agreed with you.
I’ve seen Hopkins use all the dirty tricks imaginable, including cheating his way to a NC fight when he fell out of the ring and “broke” his arm.

Hopkins is a straight up lying, dirty and cheating bastard, however, he fought into his fifties and beat guys that were literally 20 years younger than him. Guys that knew of his style and should have borrowed that style to beat him in his own game, but they didn’t. It’s their loss.

Haney’s style while questionable, neutralized Kamboso. And this is the part I make a huge distinction, European (including Aussies) and African fighters just cannot adjust to African-American style of boxing, that’s why a vast majority of them get beat.

Haney is 23 so I think the next few fights will define him. I’m not going to shït on him for traveling to Australia where I thought he was going to get robbed and accept all of Kamboso’s terms including two more fights. That’s called cheating on Kamboso’s part. Using the belts to leverage what’s best for him. This loss is comeuppance.

So they get beat because they DONīT cheat and get a free pass like Afro-Americans??

[budfr]

Tieing up is a big part of boxing, if that's all it took everyone could win big fights, Kambosis didn't know what to do at any time, when it is like that you have to be extra aggressive and manhandle him off, George just followed him around like a puppy.

George go and look at Fenech Nelson 1, although Fenech was robbed that's what you needed to do.

In that case, letīs have MMA rules, dummy. Hugging is not boxing. African-Americans get away with it for various reasons, in any other country not named USA or Australia ( they have White guilt too ), They would be disqualified immediatley. If Floyd Mayweather would have fought Maidana in Argentina, Floyd would have been DQfied or would have had so many point deductions itīs not even funny.

[Oregonian]

You have some good points, and by no means am I saying George is a victim because there was a lot that he could have done and but didn't do. So he needs to look in the mirror and be honest with himself. And he needs to be honest with his team for a complete lack of a game plan or the ability to adjust. I was already up on Haney for his run and hug tactics with Linares. So for me to see him do it again from round one was just too much. And he will do it again because it worked for him. The ref let it go, and Kambosos had no answer. So I'm positive we'll see these tactics again in his next fight.

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And I’m going to watch the last three fights of Haney. This time I’ll pay attention to his tactics.

[Oregonian]

So they get beat because they DONīT cheat and get a free pass like Afro-Americans??

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You are reading too much into what I wrote. I never said African American fighters cheat.
And I never said it was ok to cheat or to ok to get a pass. I never said that.

I’m talking about a clash of styles. If you take the best fighter out of the US to fight the best out of Europe, often times, the American will win.

Perhaps you should read more of Breadman’s Q & A’s

[Cypocryphy]

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And I’m going to watch the last three fights of Haney. This time I’ll pay attention to his tactics.

To be fair, I don't remember his clinching that much when he fought Diaz. I should check that fight again.

[Oregonian]

To be fair, I don't remember his clinching that much when he fought Diaz. I should check that fight again.

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All that aside, do you think Haney beats Garcia? I don’t think he beats Tank or Shakur. Or even Loma.