Mayweather, Marquez Make Weight… Or Did They?

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  • pugil1st
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    #61
    Originally posted by millcitymauler
    Wow, now I wish I hadn't logged off last night before reading this little gem. .
    Your list is a joke! I can't even discuss boxing with someone with a list like that. You are probably the only person in the world with Tszyu as your number one (except his momma).

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    • GameBullDawg
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      #62
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I respect PBF skills and talent. I think the most talented fighter in my era. But, he is not great. He does not dare to be great. He picks that is clearly he can win. And, is just disapointing. His whole career to me is a disapointment. Cuz I saw so much potential in him. I just knew he was going to be something special. But, he let me down. I don't see how even Floyd's nuthuggers could give him any credit for this win. Floyd is real WW. While JMM is a LW.
      Well said , "HE DOES NOT DARE TO BE GREAT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • Iceta
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        #63
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        I hope this will mean once and for all that Mayweather's fanboys will stop claiming that he's still a natural Jnr Welterweight and is not a natural Welterweight. If he can't get lower than 146 even when the contract stipulates that he has to, then he's as much of a natural Welterweight as anyone is.
        I tried to give Floyd a little bit of the benefit of the doubt on that up until now even though I don't like him. Because I realize how hard he works in the gym, and he has never complained about being weight drained or had any history of not making weight. The sad thing is he could've probably made the weight, but he was too much of a sorry ass to.

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        • Gabilan
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          #64
          Im glad Marquez came in at 142. No sense in bulking up to 144 for the hell of it. At 142 he might retain more of his quickness. As to Mayweather, what a joke. That's 600,000 more that he has to give up (300,000 per pound over limit) on top of the garnish that the IRS has placed on his purse. Time to pay up "Money."

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          • jrosales13
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            #65
            Originally posted by pugil1st
            Your list is a joke! I can't even discuss boxing with someone with a list like that. You are probably the only person in the world with Tszyu as your number one (except his momma).
            Tszyu is one of the best 130lbers of all time. What are you saying?

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            • kingfaze19
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              #66
              i got all the respect for floyd, hes one of my favorites of all time BUT lets call it what it is, this fight is a JOKE. ok ok marquez is no.2 on the P4P list and he gave pacquiao his two toughest fights ever, but those fights were in marquez regular weight. if mayweather doesnt knock marquez out, its a loss for him the way i see it, and not only a KO, he must crush his face, make him bleed, cut him up do some brutal gladiator **** to his face thats the statement he needs to make. . .

              but i doubt thats gonna happen, marquez is highly motivated and fighting for his country, hes gettin paid more than he ever has, and hes been given the opportunity to defeat the guy most still consider the best, including him.

              im betting on floyd to do some arturo gatti type **** to marquez, if this is a tactical fight, if its even a little close then floyd loses major points cuz he knows damn well he should be fightin mosley aka the boogeyman since everyone is afraid of him

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              • millcitymauler
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                #67
                Originally posted by pugil1st
                Your list is a joke! I can't even discuss boxing with someone with a list like that. You are probably the only person in the world with Tszyu as your number one (except his momma).
                That's all you got...really???

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                • millcitymauler
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Tszyu is one of the best 130lbers of all time. What are you saying?
                  Yeah, someone (Pugil1st) obviously needs a nap.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I doubted they still will say. That he does not gain that much weight by fight night..
                    He doesn't. But under the rules of boxing, it's only the weight at the weigh-in that determines the weight class. And if he can't get below 146lb at the weigh-in, even when the contract stipulates that he has to, then no one can claim any more he's not a natural Welterweight.

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                    • mev1
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sense
                      I'm not debating the contract just the weight.
                      Making the contracted weight is part of the fight as a whole. This means that you shed off those last very hard pounds to make the weight. If Oscar would have not made the weight, I'm sure FMJ would have called the fight off ( or least threatened to) because Oscar already had a size advantage, and by not making weight he would have not had to sweat those last pounds off, which is a huge advantage no matter what they weigh at fight time.

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