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  • tito yuca
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    #81
    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
    Don't forget that Oscar was also out boxing Mayweather and is naturally a lot bigger. This is a MUCH harder fight than some people expect. Trinidad early in his career was a decent boxer, he always knew how to cut of the ring when he had a size advantage over his opponent( which he would in this fight) and was an excellent body puncher when he choose to be. Not saying he would win, but he definitely had a chance. He has beaten some skillful boxers and was unbeaten at welterweight.
    just when you think youve heard it all...

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #82
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      again......people are not the same.

      pacquiao is not corrales.

      boxing wins are not based on brand name or all time great rankings.

      it's based on matchups.

      cotto might have beat mosley and clottey but that doesn't mean just because pacquiao beats cotto that he could beat cotto and clottey.

      size DOES matter! i don't care what your girlfriends tell you. it does!
      I'll believe that Clottey is active enough, has the foot speed to catch up to Pacquiao. Oh and Pacquiao doesn't have the stamina to win a U.D.

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      • Jiddu Dali
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        #83
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        floyd gets KTFO doing his dumb shoulder rolls.
        lol..i doubt it.

        Tito would be outboxed

        Skill > Power

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        • Xplosivo
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          #84
          Originally posted by Mr._Pink
          let pacquiao beat a real welterweight and i'll reconsider.
          cotto is a real welterweight, who has beaten real welterweights.

          and if pacquiao can get the job done easier on oscar and hatton then hes a real welterweight

          be honest, no matter how you twist ****, if pacquiao beats cotto at welterweight then he is a legit welterweight.

          Originally posted by Mr._Pink
          pacquiao beat an old delahoya. still a good win for pac but doesn't mean he belongs at 147.

          neither does beating hatton at 140 mean he belongs at 147.

          cotto has certain disadvantages that gives pacquiao a good chance of beating him.

          out of all the top welters right now , cotto is probably the only one pacquiao could beat.

          because cotto isn't that tall , doesn't have a reach advantage , prone to cuts , doesn't have the greatest stamina , probably the only one pacquiao can hurt out of the elite 147 guys , etc.

          my hate for floyd has no bearing on what i think pac could do at 147.

          i think guys at 140 like ortiz or bradley could beat pac tbh. pac doesn't belong at 140 or 147.
          that delahoya would beat most welterweights except the top 4 or 5 pacquiao was too quick for him and beat him to the punch every time.

          WTF, so if some fighter has an advantage over other that means he is not a legit WW? its not pacquiao's fault that he does or doesnt have advantages, and even if he does or doesnt thats YOUR opinion, you only know the results at fightnight. Stop being sly

          the bolded part is about if pacquiao and floyd win their next fights, IF they win because both of them will be unpredictable fights, you will instantly discredit floyd, IF he beats pacquiao saying "he wasn't a legit welterweight and floyd should face a legit welterweight", should pacquiao beat cotto then he is a legit welterweight who holds victories over Oscar, Hatton and Cotto. Ortiz and Bradley beat pac? hahahahaha

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          • Xplosivo
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            #85
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
            Don't forget that Oscar was also out boxing Mayweather and is naturally a lot bigger. This is a MUCH harder fight than some people expect. Trinidad early in his career was a decent boxer, he always knew how to cut of the ring when he had a size advantage over his opponent( which he would in this fight) and was an excellent body puncher when he choose to be. Not saying he would win, but he definitely had a chance. He has beaten some skillful boxers and was unbeaten at welterweight.
            oscar won 3 or 4 rounds at the most and your comparison is weak because oscar is a much better boxer than trinidad, he was able to outbox trinidad as well but didnt get the decision win. Apart from that he chose the ringsize, gloves, weight, etc.

            If a mentally weak vargas could outbox and outpunch/counterpunch trinidad and make it a very competitive fight until the 10th round then floyd would definately do better as he is mentally strong, better athlete and much better boxing/counterpunching skills. Floyd would land over 50% of his punches in this fight.

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            • WhoreUs
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              #86
              Originally posted by Xplosivo
              cotto is a real welterweight, who has beaten real welterweights.

              and if pacquiao can get the job done easier on oscar and hatton then hes a real welterweight

              be honest, no matter how you twist ****, if pacquiao beats cotto at welterweight then he is a legit welterweight.



              that delahoya would beat most welterweights except the top 4 or 5 pacquiao was too quick for him and beat him to the punch every time.

              WTF, so if some fighter has an advantage over other that means he is not a legit WW? its not pacquiao's fault that he does or doesnt have advantages, and even if he does or doesnt thats YOUR opinion, you only know the results at fightnight. Stop being sly

              the bolded part is about if pacquiao and floyd win their next fights, IF they win because both of them will be unpredictable fights, you will instantly discredit floyd, IF he beats pacquiao saying "he wasn't a legit welterweight and floyd should face a legit welterweight", should pacquiao beat cotto then he is a legit welterweight who holds victories over Oscar, Hatton and Cotto. Ortiz and Bradley beat pac? hahahahaha
              you do realize i don't even consider floyd a legit welterweight right?

              you're barking up the wrong tree on this issue.

              i don't consider pacquiao a legit welterweight because he's not. he's not a natural 147 guy.

              it's not because i want to demean floyd for fighting him.

              i don't consider floyd a legit welterweight either. floyd is a natural lightweight to me. super lightweight at most.

              i'm a floyd hater. i don't like his style of fighting.

              don't confuse me for the other floyd haters though. i don't think like them.

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              • Bryght
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                #87
                Tito by knockout within 10 rounds.

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                • Jiddu Dali
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                  you do realize i don't even consider floyd a legit welterweight right?

                  you're barking up the wrong tree on this issue.

                  i don't consider pacquiao a legit welterweight because he's not. he's not a natural 147 guy.

                  it's not because i want to demean floyd for fighting him.

                  i don't consider floyd a legit welterweight either. floyd is a natural lightweight to me. super lightweight at most.

                  i'm a floyd hater. i don't like his style of fighting.

                  don't confuse me for the other floyd haters though. i don't think like them.
                  lol@ u dont like his style...how on earth can u be a fan of BOXING? or are you a fan of punching? If you say mayweather isnt a REAL WW & is more of a super lightweight.....then u should be giving him tons of props for moving up in weight and beating guys at much higher weight classes. I dont see Cotto or Clottey moving up to JMW or even MW to fight the guys above their weight classes


                  nothing he does will please u.....

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                  • Xplosivo
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    you do realize i don't even consider floyd a legit welterweight right?

                    you're barking up the wrong tree on this issue.

                    i don't consider pacquiao a legit welterweight because he's not. he's not a natural 147 guy.

                    it's not because i want to demean floyd for fighting him.

                    i don't consider floyd a legit welterweight either. floyd is a natural lightweight to me. super lightweight at most.

                    i'm a floyd hater. i don't like his style of fighting.

                    don't confuse me for the other floyd haters though. i don't think like them.
                    Then why do you want floyd to face "legit welterweights" when isn't one himself? yet pacquiao doesn't have to face "legit welterweights" according to you. I for one think cotto, margarito and mosley are more of light middleweights fighting and welterweight, and floyd and pacquiao both have grown into welterweights, people grow in weight. pacquiao was 145 pounds in his fight against morales at 130, floyd comes at 147-149 at fight night, floyd beat oscar and hatton, pacquiao did an easier job on them. lets wait and see the outcome of JMM-Mayweather to assess this better, i want Mayweather to face the winner of pacquiao-cotto as do most fans whether its cotto or pacquiao it doesn't matter, the winner of that fight should fight the winner of JMM-Mayweather whether its Marquez or Mayweather again it doesn't matter. For all we know we could be seeing pacquiao vs marquez 3 if they both win, which i think is somewhat possible.

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                    • Xplosivo
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Bryght
                      Tito by knockout within 10 rounds.
                      you should take that big finger and shove it up yours.

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