Can we be real and admit Mayweather would school Sugar Ray Robinson

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  • TintaBoricua
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    #21
    I can't tell you about Sugar Ray Robinson because I haven't sat down to watch his fights. I've seen him in snippets and know that many insiders regard him as the best to ever lace them up, but I personally can't vouch for him one way or the other.

    However, what I CAN tell you is that I've always believed in two fighters that could've given Floyd fits if it had ever happened:

    Winky Wright at 154 when he was putting on a clinic on everybody (circa 2003-2004) and basically toyed with Shane and Tito Trinidad.

    And the other being a prime Thomas Hearns. Height, worldwide reach, fast flicking jab, atomic right hand. That guy would've been ALL WRONG for Mayweather (and I like Floyd).

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    • djtmal
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      #22
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      Pac lost nearly every round, now go have a good look at Rays resume and tell me how many HOF fighters are on it, and while you are there tell me is it 110 cans he beat with a 1000 losses or is it more.more.

      Fights you wanted, he named 5 top guys and YOU said if he fought them it would be big, he did and beat them all.

      Tell me do you have amnesia on what you post or you're just a dumb drunk.

      Could Floyd beat Ray maybe maybe not, there is quite a bit of size difference.
      Please man fast forward a couple of years to one of Srr protégé in Srl a bona-fide top ten atg.
      We saw how Floyd moved Floyd wouldn't venture up to ww until Srl either showed signs of aging or moved up. At ww he was terrified of any better than average fighter in their prime he took two years off to duck a whole division of big ww's. At lw he took on guys in their prime at ww he cherrypicked and you crybabies forever excuse him saying he's too small. So let him stay in a lw's place. Ww is big hard hitting guys that Floyd didn't want that smoke with hell look how he sidestepped Thurman and timed his exit plan when Spence emerged.

      Did Floyd even beat an elite prime natural welterweight of significance i can't think of one unless you want to count Victor Ortiz, and no transplanted lws Manny and Marquez don't count
      Last edited by djtmal; 06-12-2022, 10:22 AM.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #23
        Robinson knocks Floyd out. Probably inside 6-8 rounds too.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #24
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          Well you can either be real or you can claim that Mwayweather would school Robinson. It's impossible to do both.
          Best comment of the thread right here…

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          • War Room
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            #25
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

            Is there a number I should phone when you forget to take your medication hun?
            He's extremely lonely and these piss poor troll threads is how he gets his jollies.
            Last edited by War Room; 06-12-2022, 10:45 AM.

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            • Nash out
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              #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock

              Pac lost nearly every round, now go have a good look at Rays resume and tell me how many HOF fighters are on it, and while you are there tell me is it 110 cans he beat with a 1000 losses or is it more.more.

              Fights you wanted, he named 5 top guys and YOU said if he fought them it would be big, he did and beat them all.

              Tell me do you have amnesia on what you post or you're just a dumb drunk.

              Could Floyd beat Ray maybe maybe not, there is quite a bit of size difference.
              I know. Pac won! LMAO. He won R4, and R6 and lost every other round. The fight was dull because it was so one-sided and Money May just toyed with Marquez's bi*ch. Nash out.

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              • -Kev-
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                #27
                When you look at SRR’s resume you see 170+ wins and 19 losses, only one by KO. And you go “wow” because of those 170+ wins.

                Also, everyone’s prime and longevity is different. I’m no SRR expert, i’m boxrec warrioring right now, but I see SRR started racking up the bulk of his losses starting at age 39. That’s pretty late, clearly a past prime SRR so his 19 losses are deceiving.

                SRR’s lone TKO defeat was at age 31 to Joey Maxim, age 30, who was 78-18-4 and weighed in at 173lbs to SRR’s 158lbs. SRR was the favorite despite Maxim’s physical advantages. Not sure what to think of it but I would compare that loss to Canelo losing to Bivol, even though Bivol is undefeated. It just looks like Canelo bit off more than he could chew, like SRR did with Maxim. Ultimately that TKO loss didn’t matter, SRR is still widely considered the GOAT. Not by me, I can’t see all of his fights so idk. I just have boxrec. But, on paper, he was clearly the best P4P fighter of his era, that’s clear on paper. I mean barring massive, massive weight differences.

                Looks like Turpin, Maxim and LaMotta beat a prime SRR but Maxim and LaMotta had a huge weight advantage on him. Turpin seems to be the only one of those 3 that was actually around Robinson’s size. He also ended up beating LaMotta a pack of times afterward.

                I mean who the hell knows who wins between SRR and Mayweather at 147? It’s all opinions anyway. You would look way smarter and fit in better if you say SRR, even if you haven’t seen all of his fights and all of the rounds. That’s just the accepted outcome. You don’t pick against fighters of the no-tv era or black and white era or limited footage eras. You just don’t. It’s blasphemy. Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey defeat Fury, Usyk, Wilder, AJ in the first round each. Nobody stands a chance vs those fighters from the past.

                It’s like Jerry West and Magic Johnson. Who scored more points? West, so West is better than Magic. Well, using boxing logic, that is.

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                • The Sweet Science
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                  #28
                  This is absurd. Robinson's best weight was welterweight. Floyd began his career at jr. lightweight. Robinson was the naturally bigger man, had a better punch, chin, etc. Robinson was superior to Floyd in every way other than defense. Robinson would beat Floyd, probably by knockout. To suggest Floyd would handle Sugar Ray Robinson like he did Arturo Gatti is utter ignorance.

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