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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
There is no win you can come up with that exceeds beating Canelo or Manny. He didn’t just beat them he won 22 out of 24 rounds against them.
Frankly, if Floyd was anyone else you’d give him proper credit. You won’t because it means admitting Floyd is better. So I get it.
Pac beat ATG in their primes . Nobody cares Floyd beat nelo, when everyone thinks prime nel o beats any version of floyd. Nobody cares turpin beat srr, srr has better resume than turpin so no reason Turpin should gloat about it. Nobody cares Terry norris beat srl.
Moral of story floyd s win over pac and nel o means littleLast edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2022, 06:02 AM.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
If you care to take the time to look you can see the feet catch which made him stubble, his glove barely touched down and that's a knockdown lol , Manny laying flat on his back like he was dead, but Floyd was knocked down lol yet the seat of his pant have never touched down, you haters are so trivial like he got a blood nose with Cotto lol , Floyd owns you.Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2022, 06:04 AM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Pac beating barrera and jmm and thurman is better than Floyd's win over nelo.
Pac beat ATG in their primes . Nobody cares Floyd beat nelo, when everyone thinks prime nel o beats any version of floyd. Nobody cares turpin beat srr, srr has better resume than turpin so no reason Turpin should gloat about it. Nobody cares Terry norris beat srl.
Moral of story floyd s win over pac and nel o means little
If Floyd’s wins over Manny and Canelo mean little, using the same criteria to evaluate wins, every Manny win would also mean little, given no boxer Manny beat was on the same level as Manny or Canelo, whether they were prime or not.
You were arguing Manny was the best in the sport when Floyd beat him. Now you’re saying it means little. No one argued Barrera, Jim or Thurman occupied that spot.
Using the same criteria you’ve posted-
Barrera had been stopped. So that win is lowered.
Manny never decisively beat JMM and got ktfo. Using the same standard he got the a side judges decision on the close wins, which means it’s not that good.
Thurman had come off injury and barely beat Lopez. Using same standards, that win isn’t much.
Just evaluate them using equal standards.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-04-2022, 06:22 AM.
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Floyd s win over pac means little. Pac was no2 pfp as he started at lightflyweight. Doesnt mean if spence or bud or srl or floyd beats Pac at WW it's some amazing win.
Floyd s win over nel o is a nothing type win..Drains nel o to try weaken him and only after nel o signs contract, or rather after Floyd's wins, do Floyd say it is amazing win and nothing nel o can do to make up for loss lol. You should have put that in small print before nel o signed. I guarantee you nel o wouldn't have signed and the fight would be in mexico
Prime nel o destroys floyd.
Floyd s got no great winsLast edited by hugh grant; 06-05-2022, 04:12 AM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFloyd s win over pac means little. Pac was no2 pfp as he started at lightflyweight. Doesnt mean if spence or bud or srl or floyd beats Pac at WW it's some amazing win.
Floyd s win over nel o is a nothing type win..Drains nel o to try weaken him and only after nel o signs contract Floyd fans say it will be amazing win and nothing nel o can do to make up for loss lol. You should have put that in small print before nel o signed. I guarantee you nel o wouldn't have signed.
Prime nel o destroys floyd.
Floyd s got no great wins
Floyd is older than Manny. The others are much younger. Crawford and Spence wouldn’t be fighting Manny when he wa #2 p4p. Floyd actually beat Manny, the others didn’t fight him.
Please use the same criteria when evaluating.
If what you posted about Floyd beating canelo is true, that would mean Manny’s wins against Cotto and Margs are nothing type wins because they were both drained.
Prime Canelo would beat Floyd only because of age. That also means he would beat Manny right now. So using the same criteria, Floyd at his current age nor Manny at his current age could beat this Canelo.
Ok, if Floyd has no great wins, using the same criteria and standards, Manny has no great wins because no boxer Manny beat was ranked higher than Manny when Floyd beat him, even if they were “prime”.
I also question “prime”. Using the same criteria you posted, if you’ve been ko’d or taken a lot of punishment you’re not prime.
So the only “prime” guy would be Thurman, who barley beat a journeyman the fight before. No where near as good as Corrales, Castillo or Hatton, who were prime.
Please just use the same criteria and standards.
Bradley ducked Floyd. If a win doesn’t count because a guy ducked, as you posted, the Bradley win doesn’t count.
Right? Or are you going to change to give Manny credit?Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-04-2022, 07:17 AM.
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Floyd's smoke and mirrors, Floyd fans tell nel what he's got to do to overcome loss to floyd, like a win over a green, cw fight where fkoyd tries weakening him is some ATG feat? Isn't Floyd keeping his zero as he was the A side enough for Floyd fans, they need to getbgreedy and embellish the win.? If you want the win to be great and credible, give rematch like Pac was willing to do with cotto. Cott o ducked rematch at 147.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
If you care to take the time to look you can see the feet catch which made him stubble, his glove barely touched down and that's a knockdown lol , Manny laying flat on his back like he was dead, but Floyd was knocked down lol yet the seat of his pant have never touched down, you haters are so trivial like he got a blood nose with Cotto lol , Floyd owns you.
Bloody nose vs Cotto.
Eye cut vs Maidana.
Broken nose vs De La Hoya.
Bloody nose vs Subway employee Augustus.
Lost to Castillo.
Lost to Maidana.
Arguably lost to De La Hoya.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFloyd's smoke and mirrors, Floyd fans tell nel what he's got to do to overcome loss to floyd, like a win over a green, cw fight where fkoyd tries weakening him is some ATG feat? Isn't Floyd keeping his zero as he was the A side enough for Floyd fans, they need to getbgreedy and embellish the win.? If you want the win to be great and credible, give rematch like Pac was willing to do with cotto. Cott o ducked rematch at 147.
Using the same criteria, manny’s career would also be smoke and mirrors. He drained and weakened Cotto and Margs as the a side. So those wins are embellished as well.
Manny didn’t give Margs or Cotto a rematch. Since he didn’t, using the same criteria, these wins are not great or credible.
Don’t lie about Cotto to justify this. Shameful.
Manny didn’t give Thurman a rematch, using the same criteria, the win can’t be great or credible.
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Originally posted by Silence View Post
Still legit KD. He was out of balance due to impact of Judah's sneaky punch. Mayweather should have lost that round 10-8.
Bloody nose vs Cotto.
Eye cut vs Maidana.
Broken nose vs De La Hoya.
Bloody nose vs Subway employee Augustus.
Lost to Castillo.
Lost to Maidana.
Arguably lost to De La Hoya
wait- isn’t winning a fight after sustaining injuries in the fight indicate how great a boxer someone is?
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