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  • kafkod
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    #141
    Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

    You specifically want a discussion about the the third fight? I already addressed it - you are deluded if you think it wasn't competitive. Fury was almost done, he got saved by the bell. The commentators even thought it might be over at that point. The 2nd knockdown was a nothing punch and he crumpled to the canvas.

    Let's be honest - any other boxer and you'd be saying that fight was competitive.
    Like I said, it was competitive for a short period after Fury got careless and walked onto a right hand from Wilder. The rest of the fight, apart from the first round when they were feeling each out, was as one-sided as the second fight. It was just a lot more scrappy and sloppy.

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    • REDEEMER
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      #142
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

      I do like Whyte but he is made for Wilder. Wilder is very fast. Only person who is made more for Wilder is Joe Joyce. That Takam fight....
      Wilder fights nothing like Takam who’s a very good counter puncher at close ranges . That’s the problem with the forum when other fighters give good performances they think it’s automatic wins for punchers . Wilder has yet to actually beat a bigger puncher then Breazeale who’s slower then Joyce is .and half the skills .

      Whyte would have tagged Wilder more easily then Fury ,he’d get knocked out with the first solid shot landed is my guess so it’s still who hits who first as is all Wilder fights if he fights legit punchers at this point ,even Breazeale hurt him and the punch just grazed him . The fact is counter punching gives Joyce problems the only one he hasn’t defeated are Usyk and A.J ,but even Jennings gave him a great fight though miles from winning that one .

      Wilder couldn’t counterpunch ever ,never was one can’t see him picking it up now . I think,Joyce pressures him and a going backwards Wilder is basically finished if that happens against Joyce another guy having at least 30/40 pounds on him . Imagine just a high guard as defense with oncoming punches that didn’t stop ? That’s all Wilder does when punches come at him like a statue with his hands up .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 06-09-2022, 01:22 PM.

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      • FinlandsFinest
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        #143
        Welcome back brother. HW Boxing needs you, you got a lot of fights to go for, I sitll wanna see Wilder knock AJ out, Whyte would be easiest of work his style is just made for Wilder.
        The Fury rematch would still be entertaining but i dont think he can beat Fury, that ship sailed.

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        • rickJen
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          #144
          I just wish Wilder's camp provide the name he's fighting.
          If it's a tuneup, then disappear for a year, of what use is this comeback for fans?

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          • Roberto Vasquez
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            #145
            Originally posted by REDEEMER

            Wilder fights nothing like Takam who’s a very good counter puncher at close ranges . That’s the problem with the forum when other fighters give good performances they think it’s automatic wins for punchers . Wilder has yet to actually beat a bigger puncher then Breazeale who’s slower then Joyce is .and half the skills .

            Whyte would have tagged Wilder more easily then Fury ,he’d get knocked out with the first solid shot landed is my guess so it’s still who hits who first as is all Wilder fights if he fights legit punchers at this point ,even Breazeale hurt him and the punch just grazed him . The fact is counter punching gives Joyce problems the only one he hasn’t defeated are Usyk and A.J ,but even Jennings gave him a great fight though miles from winning that one .

            Wilder couldn’t counterpunch ever ,never was one can’t see him picking it up now . I think,Joyce pressures him and a going backwards Wilder is basically finished if that happens against Joyce another guy having at least 30/40 pounds on him . Imagine just a high guard as defense with oncoming punches that didn’t stop ? That’s all Wilder does when punches come at him like a statue with his hands up .
            But Wilder *Always* lands that right hand. Even on Fury supposedly the most elusive boxer. Fury was saying before their first fight that Wilder could never touch his chin - well he touched it, a lot! Whyte is pretty easy to hit.

            Joyce literally fights with his chin. And he's been stopped in the amateurs so that chin will crack if hit hard enough. AJ has stopped Joyce in a round too in the past... Kuzmin stopped Joyce in 32 seconds....

            Wilder is much faster than Takam and knows how to set up his right hand, he will land on Joyce or Whyte. Maybe they can bulldoze him, but he has had some experience of losing now so I'm sure he will be practising to improve fighting backwards

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              #146
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

              But Wilder *Always* lands that right hand. Even on Fury supposedly the most elusive boxer. Fury was saying before their first fight that Wilder could never touch his chin - well he touched it, a lot! Whyte is pretty easy to hit.

              Joyce literally fights with his chin. And he's been stopped in the amateurs so that chin will crack if hit hard enough. AJ has stopped Joyce in a round too in the past... Kuzmin stopped Joyce in 32 seconds....

              Wilder is much faster than Takam and knows how to set up his right hand, he will land on Joyce or Whyte. Maybe they can bulldoze him, but he has had some experience of losing now so I'm sure he will be practising to improve fighting backwards
              I really can’t see Wilder beating up Joyce who’s sole job would to be put Wilder on the back foot and really if we’re hones there Wilder is the most limited fighter in the last 30 years ,he hasn’t fought the likes of anyone as durable as a 265 pound Joyce that alone would be an uphill battle for him not even counting Joyce’s non stop forward progression.

              Kuzman like A.J stopped Joyce under am rules not so much in a real boxing match and this is 2022 you guys can’t really put a year well past its current date and think you have the same fight ,come on that’s like me using Wilders knockout loss he suffered in the ams to Cruiserweight.

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              • Roberto Vasquez
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                #147
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                I really can’t see Wilder beating up Joyce who’s sole job would to be put Wilder on the back foot and really if we’re hones there Wilder is the most limited fighter in the last 30 years ,he hasn’t fought the likes of anyone as durable as a 265 pound Joyce that alone would be an uphill battle for him not even counting Joyce’s non stop forward progression.

                Kuzman like A.J stopped Joyce under am rules not so much in a real boxing match and this is 2022 you guys can’t really put a year well past its current date and think you have the same fight ,come on that’s like me using Wilders knockout loss he suffered in the ams to Cruiserweight.
                Yes but Joyce gets hit when he does that (puts it on people). I remember an old Stiverne laying some huge shots on Joyce. If Wilder does that....

                My other point was chins don't get any better, don't make the mistake of thinking he's unstoppable. Wilder really is a huge puncher

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