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  • #31
    Aj should win this in boring fashion klitchsko style jab grab hold lean on make em carry the weight for 12

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post

      His cardio isn't the issue, you could have him running daily marathons and he would still gas out because its nervous energy and he ****s his lungs out in the ring.

      A psychologist would be more useful seriously

      He will never fight seek and destroy vs Usyk, never.

      Anthony Joshua is not confident coming forward, he is more of a look for openings type of guy, he's decent at counterpunching and OK at long range boxing.

      He can be devastating if he catches a guy with a clean counter and goes for the finish but he needs his opponent to be seriously hurt to be confident enough to open up.

      The only way he wins this fight is bby teaching him to use his size, wrestle, stink the joint out, make it really dull ugly grapple fest and hope in that kind of a scenario Usyk's tank empties before Joshuas.

      He will NEVER beat him in a clean fight.
      I agree with this and the bold is why I said sprints. He doesnt need to go full attack constantly just bursts as far as making it an ugly fight your spot on and that plays into the seek and destroy game plan that's why I said there would be more to that tactic I just sorta summarized my thoughts. Your spot on though without a serious mentality that Usyk cant win the fight A.J. is beat before he steps in the ring. He needs the Ivan Drago mentality of " I MUST BREAK YOU " and truly has to be confident enough to believe it.

      On another note A.J. can win this fight. It wont be easy but it is possible IMO

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
        Aj should win this in boring fashion klitchsko style jab grab hold lean on make em carry the weight for 12
        What you are describing is the classical super heavyweight big man styled fight.

        Anthony Joshua for a super heavyweight does not fight a good big man fight. He has no idea how to tie a fighter up and wrestle on the inside. And his jab is not consistent enough, not solid enough etc.

        Stylistically the game plan to beat Usyk would of been straight forward for past super-heavyweights like Wladimir Kiltscko & Lennox Lewis

        Those guys would of eliminated the effectiveness of Uysk's jab, pushed him about, wrestled him on the inside and broke his action. Then beat him up with long range warfare.

        Usyk would of been competitive, as he is good from long range 'But the jab would just take him apart over the duration of the fight'.

        Uysk can beat Joshua at long range, that is why Joshua needs to make this a mid-range type of fight. But Joshua can improve his jab.

        Some fights Joshua's jab is good, in others it goes missing or is very passive. Shades of David Price type consistency with the jab etc.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-25-2022, 10:30 AM.
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        • #34
          This is the 1st time he's had a gameplan? Either that's true and beyond pathetic and reason for McCracken to be fired immediately, or a lie (IMO) because he clearly changed tactics entirely for the Ruiz rematch.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

            What you are describing is the classical super heavyweight big man styled fight.

            Anthony Joshua for a super heavyweight does not fight a good big man fight. He has no idea how to tie a fighter up and wrestle on the inside. And his jab is not consistent enough, not solid enough etc.

            Stylistically the game plan to beat Usyk would of been straight forward for past super-heavyweights like Wladimir Kiltscko & Lennox Lewis

            Those guys would of eliminated the effectiveness of Uysk's jab, pushed him about, wrestled him on the inside and broke his action. Then beat him up with long range warfare.

            Usyk would of been competitive, as he is good from long range 'But the jab would just take him apart over the duration of the fight'.

            Uysk can beat Joshua at long range, that is why Joshua needs to make this a mid-range type of fight. But Joshua can improve his jab.

            Some fights Joshua's jab is good, in others it goes missing or is very passive. Shades of David Price type consistency with the jab etc.
            Wlad and Usyk, have sparred, while Wlad was champion, and it didn't go well for Wlad. He couldn't land a punch on Usyk and never had him back as a sparring partner again.

            The big men like Wlad, Vitali, Lewis, never had to fight anybody remotely similar to Usyk. He's a one-off, like Ali was in the 60s, so who knows if that "big man" style would work against him in a fight? I have my doubts, tbh.
            Last edited by kafkod; 05-25-2022, 11:05 AM.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              Joshua needs to be a tad heavier also, between 242-244 pounds.

              I find when Joshua starts getting down to the 240-239 pounds, his strength goes out the window.

              It has not improved his endurance, so that tactic is flawed.

              Joshua's endurance was at its all time best vs Kiltschko, and he was at one of his heaviest weights.
              took some serious licks that night as well and came back from the brink so you make a good point. I know he was up in the high 240's for Ruiz 1 but he got caught rushing a highlight reel finish that night and couldn't recover wasn't so much about endurance. Temple shots and all that. If he'd stepped back and waited another round or two for a similar one-two he'd have won that fight handily.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                Wlad and Usyk, have sparred, while Wlad was champion, and it didn't go well for Wlad. He couldn't land a punch on Usyk and never had him back as a sparring partner again.

                The big men like Wlad, Vitali, Lewis, never had to fight anybody remotely similar to Usyk. He's a one-off, like Ali was in the 60s, so who knows if that "big man" style would work against him in a fight? I have my doubts, tbh.
                Sparring is sparring.

                Anthony Joshua beat Tyson Fury up in sparring.

                And Dillian Whyte decked him.

                Usyk is not a complete fighter, and he is not a better fighter than Evander Holyfield. I don't think Lennox Lewis would be intimidated.

                Usyk has zero inside game, so what is so unique about Usyk?

                I think you need to calm down mate, Usyk is good in certain area's where these heavyweights lack these days.

                I still don't rate Usyk as a better fighter than Holyfield or Haye at their peak.

                I have never ever seen you rate Usyk so highly, what has brought all of this on? And is this altitude going to stay once Joshua beats him via stoppage?

                I think the big man style would work against Uysk, because he has zero inside game. If you take away his jab, his long range dominance 'What is he going to do?'.

                Uysk can fight at mid-range, but it he is no Mike Tyson in that department. Fighters like Lewis & Kiltschko would just tie him up and disrupt the action.

                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-25-2022, 11:48 AM.

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                • #38
                  Oh josh, you must of forgotten the time you said this about Ruiz. You also said it about Wlad.

                  less talk. More action. Never seen a fighter talk the business then look a terrified fighter on fight night. I can’t believe he hasn’t even realised this yet.

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                  • #39
                    I wish AJ the best of luck. To me it's just another fight. To him its his life. Too bad somebody has to lose.

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                    • #40
                      This is the problem with very talented, athletic boxers. They think that’s all they need. That’s NOT smart. He shouldn’t of lost to either Ruiz or Usyk. That’s his fault NOT his team.

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