Does Alvarez still easily beat a Prime Froch?

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    No.

    Carl Froch beats Alvarez,

    Froch actually has better movement, superior jab, superior endurance by miles, superior physical strength, superior durability.

    I honestly think Froch beats Alvarez over 12 rounds, his work rate will be too much.

    Joe Calzaghe and Carl Froch beat all of Alvarez's best wins at Middle to Super Middle Weight, and some of those opponents they would beat more impressively.

    Caleb Plant is not taking rounds off Calzaghe for example. And can you imagine what Froch would do to Liam Smith & Saunders?

    Alvarez has exposed and taken Advantage of a below par landscape, that is essentially what has happened these past few years.

    Alvarez in the late 90's to early 2000's, would not be yo yoing up and down in weight between the divisions. Well he would not be doing that for very long, before he is beaten up etc.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #22
      To be honest, after seeing Bivol -Canelo, I don`t really believe Canelo beats any great 168 -175 guy from the past.

      Canelo`s place in historical books is 154 -160.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        froch would have beat him easy, its strange how he had such a good career beat top fighters only lost to ward by 1 round when apparantly on here he is some caveman with a good chin and thats about it. froch could box well when he wanted to, look at the groves fight, just cause he doesnt look as good as canelo does on the heavybag doesnt mean he wouldnt destroy him in a fight

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        • Earl-Hickey
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          #24
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          froch would have beat him easy, its strange how he had such a good career beat top fighters only lost to ward by 1 round when apparantly on here he is some caveman with a good chin and thats about it. froch could box well when he wanted to, look at the groves fight, just cause he doesnt look as good as canelo does on the heavybag doesnt mean he wouldnt destroy him in a fight
          I was around on here for Froch career and I saw first hand how people just went with this narrative that Froch was unskilled.

          He was picked overwhelmingly on here to lose almost every fight he had after Pascal, except for maybe Groves 1.

          The funny thing is Froch wasn't even slow really, he could be liable to throw some looping shots and threw unorthodox shots which I guess gave that impression, but the only fights he really looked slow in was vs Taylor and Dirrell both of whom were exceptionally fast fighters.

          Canelo looked ****ing slow vs BJS and Plant and both of them couldn't punch for **** where Taylor and Dirrell both actually had something on their shots.

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          • Nash out
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            Here is the thing, people seem to be judging Canelo on his worst day and Froch at his best, so it's only fair in this mythical match-up, that we judge Carl Froch from his performance vs Andre Dirrell, and in that case, Canelo wins very wide. Nash out.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #26
              Originally posted by Nash out
              Here is the thing, people seem to be judging Canelo on his worst day and Froch at his best, so it's only fair in this mythical match-up, that we judge Carl Froch from his performance vs Andre Dirrell, and in that case, Canelo wins very wide. Nash out.
              Even Alvarez at his best, has below par endurance, lack of movement, and no gears. Nothing changes on that one mate.

              Alvarez is not taking Froch out with one punch.

              Carl Froch as a superior jab, superior movement, superior endurance, and Alvarez when he faces off with Froch? Is facing somebody who is more durable and tougher than him.

              Carl Froch has multiple attributes which have always troubled Alvarez. The only attribute he does not have in abundance is speed. But even still in my opinion Froch is fast enough.

              If Froch could land on Ward, if he could hit the body parts of a peak Ward 'He is getting to Alvarez, who in comparison is a static and does not have the upper body defense like Ward'.

              Carl Froch beats Alvarez over 12 rounds, there is even a possibility of a stoppage.

              Froch would also beat Golovkin.

              Carl Froch at his worst was never dominated, never shown a different level. He was always in the fights. Alvarez has been dominated, completely dominated and shown a different level during his loses TWICE.


              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-24-2022, 07:21 AM.

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              • CasperUK
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                #27
                Yes. Easily

                Froch had nothing that Canelo would fear.

                Remember, Froch was a guy who used to regularly cross his feet when throwing a punch and get backed up.

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                • Silence
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                  #28
                  Canelo beats Slowoch like a drum. Bivol beats him by 12-0 shoot out.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Silence
                    Canelo beats Slowoch like a drum. Bivol beats him by 12-0 shoot out.
                    Bivol couldn't beat Craig Richards 12-0 but he does Froch?

                    Have you ever seen a bivol fight other than the canelo one?

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                    • War Room
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                      #30
                      It's 50/50. Froch was awkward which could work for him, but he's open and easy to counter. He was pretty tough, but not iron beard.

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