Is Danny Williams really a Bum?

[elveiel]

i been boxing since i was 13, if you cant pivot you cant fight with power. infact you cant even slip a shot while beng in postion to fire back. you could come forward but you'd only have your jab and your right hand and that would put mike at a serious diadvantage.

yeah mike lost but williams isnt as much to blame as mikes knee, and this is coming from a guy whos been talkin **** about mike for the last 5 years, i am by know means a tyson lover.

any knee injury that makes your arms involentarly flap at your sides during a fight must have hurt him enough to stop him from pivoting. and the evidence of this is he couldnt back william up after the spasam, but was doing it easly beforhand.

so yeah it did effect his power. it affected the whole fight.
watch it again.

I have been fighting for many year too, but i have never had problems with my legs, although i did a similar injury playing soccer and if he was injured as bad as he told everyone, he wouldnt have been able to do what he was able to do. Its nothing to do with pain thesholds, its about stability.

My point is that it didnt effect Tyson as much as he said.

I'm a little tired of watching it, so lets agree that it wasnt Tysons knee that lost him the fight .

Seriously lets agree to disagree.

[drag0n_]

Tyson's messed up knee definitiely changed the fight however way you look at it, Danny was about to go and then Mike's knee gave way. He was in a damn wheelchair after the fight.

You lose a lot of power (Mike's main weapon) without the leverage/pivoting of the knee.

Danny got his lucky break. It's time for him to show us what he's really made of. I think it'll be very tough for him to beat Vitali... But it's possible.

[BrooklynBomber]

Williams is not a bum but he is an inch close to it. Also his weak attempts to play mind games with Vitaly are just hilarious.

[BrooklynBomber]

I dont think that Tyson's knee affected him too much. I mean he could still walk. IMHO it was more of a comulative thing. His age, prior fights, of course injury etc.
Tyson is old and shot
Oh well lets move on

[tys0n]

He is a bum, but i have seen bigger bums in my life. He is all talk about how hes a different man now. I dont think he should or deserves a shot at a title.

[Guest]

No, I agree with that, he hasn't earned a shot, though most contenders in the division haven't these days. I think that the heavyweight division is the most disorganised division going.

[Neuraxis]

Question: Is Danny Williams a bum?

Answer:

[Argentina]

Post Tyson fight you cannot call Danny Williams a bum. The heart and coming back from behind capability that he showed warrant no reasons for continuing to call him a bum. Now the true caliber of the modern Danny Williams, the so caleld new and improved Danny Williams, we shall see on Dec. 11th.

[Eyeh8you]

While I still favour Vitali (though I've bet on Danny at 5-1) one advantage Danny has over Klit is superior stamina.

Yer thinking of His little bro

Vitali has many late rd stoppages!

[Neuraxis]

No, I agree with that, he hasn't earned a shot, though most contenders in the division haven't these days. I think that the heavyweight division is the most disorganised division going.

How does someone with this list of wins (Sullivan TKO 10, Hoffman UD 12, Purrity TKO 11, Bean TKO 11, Donald TKO 10, Sanders TKO 8) and zero losses that were stamina related have a stamina problem?